{"conversationCode":"020-038","tapeNumber":20,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-020-038","startDateTime":"1972-02-03T01:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-02-03T01:09:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Feb-1972","startTime":"8:09 PM","endDate":"2-Feb-1972","endTime":"8:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 8:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 020-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 20-38\n\nDate: February 2, 1972\nTime: 8:09 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for a call to Charles W. Colson","filename":["020-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:20:59","tapeEnd":"01:21:05","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"020-037","nextCode":"020-039","transcript":[{"start":3.62,"end":4.3,"text":"Colson, please."},{"start":6.34,"end":6.48,"text":"Thanks."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to connect him with special counsel Charles W. Colson. This brief administrative exchange served as the direct precursor to a substantive discussion between the President and one of his key political advisors. No further topics were addressed during this connection process.","topics":["Charles W. Colson","White House operations","Presidential communication","Executive staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T01:55:09.912Z"},"topicSlugs":["charles-w-colson","white-house-operations","presidential-communication","executive-staff"],"audioDurationSec":6,"audioFiles":[{"file":"020-038.mp3","bytes":156106,"durationSec":6.43,"bitrate":194210,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:25.226Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/020-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/020-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/20/conversation-020-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}