Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 020-063 Date: Tuesday, February 8, 1972 at 2:49 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scott, Hugh Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/020-063 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Hello. [0:01] Yes, Mr. President. [0:03] Hugh Scott. [0:05] Oh, Hugh. [0:05] Yes. [0:05] I didn't have anything to bother you with, but just talking to Ziegler, and he said that the statement you made after the leadership is getting a good play on the wire. [0:13] Oh, good. [0:14] And I thought you should know again, though, that I talked to two or three afterwards, and [0:18] And, you know, you like to hear good things when they're good, but some of the fellows told me they had never heard you better. [0:24] Oh. [0:25] I mean, you really got wound up. [0:27] And I said, well, you know, I said, Scott really is a mean bastard. [0:32] I said, you just don't realize it. [0:35] You know, they forget you were once a party chairman, huh? [0:39] Remember? [0:39] Yes, sir. [0:40] It takes me a little while to wind up, you know. [0:42] But you're on the right side, let me tell you. [0:45] I'm uptight about it. [0:46] You're on the right side, and don't you think so? [0:49] Yes, sir. [0:49] I'm giving a story to the Los Angeles Times this afternoon, guarded, but generally they're pressing to say, why is Muskie the target? [0:58] And the answer is that the people who present certain positions... [1:04] uh as alternatives who foul up hanoi's negotiation make themselves the target it doesn't sure necessarily be the same one in a given week sure that's the trying to create an opinion that we're zeroing in on a single person no you're you're zeroing in on mcgovern too certainly that's what you say mcgovern muskie those people that are offering the enemy better terms [1:26] than the president has offered them are, in effect, torpedoing the chances to get a settlement before the election. [1:34] I think the idea that they, in effect, are destroying the chance to have peace before November, isn't that a good thing? [1:44] That is, and I'm using the phrase that they are fouling up the negotiation. [1:50] Right. [1:51] Well, good luck. [1:52] Thank you. [1:52] I appreciate it, sir, and I'll keep at it.