{"conversationCode":"020-067","tapeNumber":20,"conversationNumber":67,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-020-067","startDateTime":"1972-02-08T19:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-02-08T20:01:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Feb-1972","startTime":"2:57 PM","endDate":"8-Feb-1972","endTime":"3:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Finch, Robert H.;","description":"On February 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Robert H. Finch talked on the telephone from 2:57 pm to 3:01 pm. 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Finch\n\nThe President talked with Finch between 2:57 pm and 3:01 pm.\n\n[See Conversation No. 320-25]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 04/30/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[020-067-w001]\n[Duration: 4m 11s]\n\n President's schedule\n -Forthcoming meeting with Robert S. McNamara\n\n Robert H. Finch's candidacy\n -Polls\n -Nature of district\n -Carol (Crothers) Finch\n -Burbank\n -Occidental College\n -Press conference\n -President’s reelection\n -Ronald W. Reagan\n -Potential 1974 run for office\n -Refusal to commit to one Congressional term\n -Comparison to President’s 1962 California gubernatorial race\n -Vow to campaign for reelection of President\n -In industrial states\n -Ronald W. Reagan reaction\n -Senate and gubernatorial possibilities in 1974\n -Polls\n -Glendale\n -Issues\n\n -Busing\n -Urban issues\n -Property tax\n -President’s comments\n -Relevance\n -Constituency\n -Public reaction to peace initiative\n -Economic recovery\n -Unemployment drop in California\n -Otis Chandler view of Robert H. Finch’s run for office\n\n William P. Rogers’s comments at leadership conference\n -Elliot L. Richardson’s comments\n -John B. Connally’s comments\n -Hugh Scott’s comments\n -Arthur H. Vandenberg’s proposal\n -Gay vote\n -Son\n\n Robert H. Finch’s candidacy\n -Forthcoming trip to New Jersey on February 9\n -Carol (Crothers) Finch\n -Financing\n -Assemblyman from Glendale\n -Frank Lannerman\n -Patrick J. Hillings\n -Copy-Press\n -Reuter Press\n -Carlos Moorehead candidacy\n -Assemblyman from Glendale\n -Blandness\n -Ability to beat H. L. (“Bill”) Richardson\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n Leadership\n -Finch view\n -Quality of leadership\n -William P. Rogers\n -Foreign policy record","filename":["020-067.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:13:10","tapeEnd":"02:17:56","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Finch, Robert H."],"prevCode":"020-066","nextCode":"020-068","transcript":[{"start":1.18,"end":1.58,"text":"at all."},{"start":1.7,"end":4.26,"text":"Mr. Finch, Mr. President, all right?"},{"start":4.28,"end":4.72,"text":"Yeah, sure."},{"start":4.96,"end":5.38,"text":"There you are."},{"start":257.32,"end":258.19,"text":"Okay."},{"start":258.2,"end":259.63,"text":"I thought that was a good exercise this morning."},{"start":259.83,"end":264.13,"text":"Well, I think giving them all around that square table was rather interesting, too."},{"start":265.01,"end":273.98,"text":"Yeah, but apart from all that, you know, you realize when you put that leadership, even with its weaknesses in the Cabinet, even with its weaknesses..."},{"start":274.02,"end":275.1,"text":"Pretty good bunch of people."},{"start":275.34,"end":276.7,"text":"Yeah, that's a quality group."},{"start":277.12,"end":278.44,"text":"Yeah, it really is."},{"start":278.75,"end":279.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":279.35,"end":280.79,"text":"Roger's little card is a good one."},{"start":280.85,"end":281.51,"text":"Read that over."},{"start":281.55,"end":283.09,"text":"That's a hell of a damn record."},{"start":283.11,"end":283.57,"text":"Yes, it is."},{"start":283.65,"end":284.57,"text":"Okay."},{"start":284.63,"end":285.49,"text":"All right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Robert H. Finch discuss the perceived quality of the Cabinet and the effectiveness of recent leadership meetings. They review a summary of Secretary of State William P. Rogers's foreign policy record, with the President expressing strong approval of the accomplishments listed. The conversation highlights the administration's internal satisfaction with its leadership team's collective performance.","topics":["Cabinet","Leadership","William P. 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