Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 020-105 Date: Monday, February 28, 1972 at 10:47 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)] Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/020-105 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Hello. [0:01] Yes, sir. [0:02] How'd you think it went out there? [0:03] I think great. [0:05] It was really, I thought, a wonderful crowd. [0:07] Very inspiring kind of a thing to wrap it all up. [0:10] Right. [0:11] And the American the Beautiful was nice at the end. [0:13] That worked out very well, I thought. [0:16] Yeah. [0:18] It must have been great television. [0:21] I haven't talked to anybody who saw it on TV. [0:25] I wonder if it wasn't good television. [0:26] It must have been. [0:26] Oh, it has to have been. [0:27] Because it was that huge crowd and that great enthusiasm and that... [0:29] a lot of color. [0:31] That, in that hangar, works out very well. [0:33] Right. [0:34] Now, really, by going to that length, I've really made the report to the nature. [0:40] Nobody can really complain about that, can they? [0:43] Yep. [0:44] That's right. [0:44] That's right. [0:47] Got that out of the way. [0:47] That was perfect. [0:47] All right. [0:49] Well, I've got Henry busy. [0:50] He's talking to Reagan on the phone now. [0:56] Good. [0:56] He's really charged up about it. [0:57] He goes and battles for things. [0:59] He's used to working all night. [1:08] He's still got a while to go tonight. [1:10] Well, that's good. [1:10] He needs the more of that that he can do for the next day or so. [1:12] Yeah. [1:12] Until he winds down. [1:14] That's right. [1:16] I think what is, I just, when I got in, I saw the headline, the Washington Post, and I see why Colson and the rest of the word, the headline is really disgraceful. [1:25] It says, Nixon's budgets pull out of Taiwan. [1:28] Yeah. [1:28] Well, for Christ's sakes, that's not true. [1:31] It says pull out when there is peace. [1:34] And a colonel tried to do us in. [1:36] And I said, I had a hell of a time with Ziegler. [1:38] He wants to have him for that thing. [1:42] And I said, Ron, you can't. [1:43] He said, well, it's a problem. [1:44] But you've got to convince him of it. [1:45] I just have a personal feeling about it. [1:46] Yeah, I told him that. [1:50] Of course, Ziegler, I know, has to play it that way. [1:53] But that's one of the reasons. [1:54] I'll take the heat. [1:55] I think it isn't the heat from Carno that he's worried about, as I understand it. [2:01] What his concern is that we screw our story because Carno will break it. [2:06] He'll get it from somebody and then run it. [2:11] What does he want to do? [2:12] Have Carno? [2:13] Have him screw us like we did have Buckley and Buchanan screw us? [2:18] Not Buchanan, but Buckley and me. [2:20] You see what I mean? [2:20] Yeah. [2:21] What the hell? [2:27] He screwed us. [2:27] What do you think? [2:27] Don't you agree? [2:28] Do you? [2:29] I don't know. [2:29] I do. [2:30] I can see his point, which is a different point than we've been talking about. [2:41] All right. [2:41] Just take your risk. [2:41] But maybe that doesn't make any difference either. [2:42] So they do put it on. [2:43] All right. [2:44] Push it along, dude. [2:44] But all in all, I do think we have really brought the thing off in a fine climax. [2:49] I sure have. [2:50] Good. [2:50] I think the communication probably played better than thought. [2:55] Well, I think it did. [2:55] Incidentally, I guess the market held up all right. [2:57] Well, honestly, it's 924. [2:59] Yeah. [2:59] That's not bad. [3:00] It had some little up and down days, but I never gave you the market report. [3:11] Oh, no. [3:12] I don't hear it. [3:13] It was digging back and forth, and it had one pretty big day when it was about 911. [3:17] Wow. [3:17] 924. [3:18] That's just where it ought to be about now. [3:18] Oh, that's good. [3:19] Okay. [3:19] Come in. [3:21] Come in, come in, come in. [3:23] Yeah. [3:24] Okay. [3:25] Well, fine.