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Conversation 020-112

TapeTape 20StartMonday, February 28, 1972 at 11:22 PMEndMonday, February 28, 1972 at 11:25 PMTape start time03:39:53Tape end time03:43:00ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On February 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 11:22 pm to 11:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 020-112 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 20-112

Date: February 28, 1972
Time: 11:22 pm - 11:25 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Reception at airport
          -Crowd reception
               -Television coverage
          -Impact
               -Calls to Ziegler
          -Report to nation

     Taiwan, Republic of China question about US defense commitment

          -Handling of press
               -Henry A. Kissinger’s comment in Shanghai
               -The President’s remarks

     -US-People’s Republic of China [PRC] relations
          -Congressional concern
               -The President’s remarks
          -PRC-Taiwan relations
               -Prospects
          -Washington Post headline
               -Stanley Karnow
               -Max Frankel’s article
               -Wire services
               -Karnow
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Yes, sir.
Well, that seemed to be a good TV homecoming, didn't you think so?
Yeah, fantastic.
Tremendous.
Yeah, it's a good... People were blocked for... Yeah.
Backed up for four months.
Yeah.
And the impact of the visit, Mr. President, is just coming home now.
I've had people calling here, and I don't know if they're talking about...
I think, too, that we have adequately now...
made a so-called report.
Yes, sir.
That was a good length.
Yes, sir.
I mean, I covered every damn point that was to be covered.
Absolutely.
And I think the Taiwan matter is going right.
Yeah.
Now, tomorrow, a question probably should be demanded that, what is the situation with regard to our commitment?
Look, gentlemen, Dr. Kushner covered it in his background, or in his Shanghai, the president has covered it.
I'm not going to say any more about it.
It's done.
I don't, you understand, we don't want to continue to say it because it just, it hurts us with the Chinese.
They've got a hell of a problem.
We're doing it, but we don't want to continue to throw it up in their faces.
Right.
No, I think that your remarks tonight, I think, handled it perfectly.
And you can just refer to that.
Yeah.
All right.
But I think the...
Well, they can never go away because they know that deep down, they know that Taiwan eventually is going to have to be solved.
that 14 million aren't going to be able to stand up to 750 million.
That's the way the world was made.
But on the other hand, we've done everything we can.
On the backgrounder thing, I think the Taiwan thing, what really exacerbated it here is a carnival story that I see the Washington Post had its headline, Nixon agrees to withdraw from Taiwan.
Well, that's just a totally inaccurate headline.
And I don't know if
That did not play that way.
That's right.
Who?
Brackle.
Brackle, good.
I was told that I did not play that way.
I heard you did, too.
Very well.
But, you know, the carnage was...
He was trying to do something.
Pressure.
Well, you'll see.
Okay.
Bye.
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