{"conversationCode":"020-126","tapeNumber":20,"conversationNumber":126,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-020-126","startDateTime":"1972-03-01T01:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-01T01:57:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Feb-1972","startTime":"8:52 PM","endDate":"29-Feb-1972","endTime":"8:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On February 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:52 pm and 8:57 pm. 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Rogers\n          -Rogers's view of People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip\n               -Haig’s talk with the President\n               -President/Kissinger dealing with PRC\n                     -Kissinger/President qualifications\n               -PRC policy\n\n                     -Soviet Union\n                     -Vietnam negotiations\n\n     Kissinger dinner with President and family\n          -Benefits\n\n     Kissinger's schedule\n          -Backgrounder\n          -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo","filename":["020-126.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:19:42","tapeEnd":"04:22:04","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"020-125","nextCode":"020-127","transcript":[{"start":3.27,"end":4.03,"text":"Hello."},{"start":6.01,"end":6.51,"text":"Hello, Henry?"},{"start":7.82,"end":8.66,"text":"I've got it all set up."},{"start":8.68,"end":17.77,"text":"If you go on the 4 o'clock plane, which will be, you know, Air Force Two."},{"start":17.79,"end":24.14,"text":"I'll go down to 212."},{"start":24.16,"end":26.68,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":26.7,"end":26.8,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.07,"end":49.31,"text":"The second point is, Hague told me that you and I have been taken in by the confidence of Christ."},{"start":49.33,"end":49.85,"text":"And I said, now, taken in?"},{"start":49.87,"end":51.25,"text":"Do you think he thinks that?"},{"start":51.27,"end":56.31,"text":"Now look, now look, for Christ's sake, Henry, we may be doing things for other reasons, but for Christ's"},{"start":57.59,"end":59.06,"text":"Could you ever be taken in?"},{"start":59.34,"end":60.12,"text":"Could I ever be taken in?"},{"start":60.14,"end":67.38,"text":"We know more than Bill will ever learn."},{"start":89.03,"end":91.29,"text":"Okay, well, I appreciate you coming over tonight."},{"start":91.53,"end":95.3,"text":"It's nice for you to talk to our children that way, because it's never great to them."},{"start":98.88,"end":99.54,"text":"Oh, for hell!"},{"start":99.56,"end":109.01,"text":"I didn't mean to position on you, but, you know, they are, they are, you know, they have to hear it from them."},{"start":109.03,"end":112.47,"text":"Because they, you know, they want to know what's going on."},{"start":112.49,"end":115.58,"text":"The rest of the students don't."},{"start":118.95,"end":120.25,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":120.45,"end":125.06,"text":"Now, uh... Yeah."},{"start":125.08,"end":125.18,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":125.2,"end":126.96,"text":"For tomorrow, yeah."},{"start":126.98,"end":130.91,"text":"Don't do anything tonight that I wouldn't do."},{"start":130.93,"end":132.87,"text":"Don't take my prize."},{"start":132.89,"end":133.07,"text":"Okay."},{"start":133.09,"end":138.74,"text":"When I get down there, I'm going to make a proposal to give you his numbers 15 years ago."},{"start":138.76,"end":139.12,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss logistics for upcoming travel to Florida and coordinate the messaging for Kissinger’s interactions with the Nixon family. The conversation addresses reports of skepticism from Secretary of State William P. Rogers regarding the President’s China policy, which Nixon and Kissinger dismiss as a lack of understanding. The two reaffirm their control over foreign policy strategy, specifically regarding China, the Soviet Union, and Vietnam negotiations.","topics":["China policy","William P. Rogers","Foreign policy strategy","Henry Kissinger","Nixon family","Vietnam negotiations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:03:12.419Z"},"topicSlugs":["china-policy","william-p-rogers","foreign-policy-strategy","henry-kissinger","nixon-family","vietnam-negotiations"],"audioDurationSec":143,"audioFiles":[{"file":"020-126.mp3","bytes":3429354,"durationSec":142.83,"bitrate":192077,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/020-126.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/020-126","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/20/conversation-020-126","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}