{"conversationCode":"021-029","tapeNumber":21,"conversationNumber":29,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-021-029","startDateTime":"1972-03-08T17:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-08T17:34:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Mar-1972","startTime":"12:31 PM","endDate":"8-Mar-1972","endTime":"12:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On March 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone from 12:31 pm to 12:34 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 021-029 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 21-29\n\nDate: March 9, 1972\nTime: 12:31 pm - 12:34 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox.\n\n[See Conversation No. 681-2D]\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 17s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n    Portrait\n          -Today show\n          -Evening news\n\n    Cloisonne vases from the People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n         -Exhibit\n              -Cambridge, Massachusetts\n                    -Harvard University\n         -Walter H. and Leonore (Cohn) Annenberg\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 14s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["021-029.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:10:40","tapeEnd":"01:14:02","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"021-028","nextCode":"021-030","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.48,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.62,"end":2.11,"text":"Patricia."},{"start":138.91,"end":143.6,"text":"So it apparently was carried on the Today Show in the evening news, which was good."},{"start":143.62,"end":144.38,"text":"Great, great, great."},{"start":144.4,"end":145.14,"text":"The portrait was."},{"start":145.96,"end":146.56,"text":"The portrait was?"},{"start":146.9,"end":148.91,"text":"Yeah, that was what people were interested in."},{"start":149.09,"end":150.35,"text":"And that's the one we wanted carried."},{"start":150.37,"end":151.61,"text":"We don't want the political one carried."},{"start":151.63,"end":152.35,"text":"I know, I know."},{"start":152.83,"end":154.17,"text":"And Daddy, listen to this."},{"start":154.59,"end":155.77,"text":"Tell me what you think of this idea."},{"start":155.91,"end":165.53,"text":"I was thinking of giving the cloisonne vases that you and Molly brought from China, lending them to a museum for a month so that the general public could see them in Cambridge."},{"start":165.51,"end":166.39,"text":"Yeah, good."},{"start":166.41,"end":167.21,"text":"What do you think of that?"},{"start":167.37,"end":167.87,"text":"Great idea."},{"start":167.89,"end":169.01,"text":"Do you think it's bad or good?"},{"start":169.15,"end":170.01,"text":"No, it's very good."},{"start":170.22,"end":172.64,"text":"I was thinking of doing it even in the Harvard community."},{"start":172.74,"end":173,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":173.14,"end":174.44,"text":"Do you think that's a bad idea?"},{"start":174.52,"end":175.42,"text":"No, I'd do it."},{"start":176.72,"end":177.73,"text":"I think it's an excellent idea."},{"start":177.75,"end":180.07,"text":"I mean, it's just two things, but I think there's so much interest."},{"start":180.09,"end":180.49,"text":"That's right."},{"start":180.57,"end":180.97,"text":"I'd do it."},{"start":180.99,"end":181.47,"text":"It's a nice group."},{"start":181.49,"end":182.56,"text":"I think it's an excellent idea."},{"start":182.57,"end":183.4,"text":"Very subtle."},{"start":183.6,"end":185.6,"text":"I remember how well it went over with the Annenberg."},{"start":185.62,"end":186.5,"text":"Yeah, very subtle."},{"start":186.7,"end":187.4,"text":"Do it."},{"start":187.42,"end":187.62,"text":"Do it."},{"start":188.1,"end":188.87,"text":"Okay."},{"start":202.4,"end":202.48,"text":"you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, discuss recent media coverage of a presidential portrait and Tricia's proposal to exhibit cloisonné vases acquired during the recent trip to China. They express satisfaction that the portrait received positive attention on the news programs while avoiding political controversy. The President enthusiastically endorses Tricia's plan to loan the vases to a museum in Cambridge, Massachusetts, viewing the gesture as a subtle and effective public diplomacy effort.","topics":["Tricia Nixon Cox","Portrait","Cloisonné vases","People's Republic of China","Media relations","Cultural diplomacy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:07:31.115Z"},"topicSlugs":["tricia-nixon-cox","portrait","cloisonn-vases","peoples-republic-of-china","media-relations","cultural-diplomacy"],"audioDurationSec":202,"audioFiles":[{"file":"021-029.mp3","bytes":4860655,"durationSec":202.46,"bitrate":192063,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/021-029.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/021-029","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/21/conversation-021-029","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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