{"conversationCode":"021-036","tapeNumber":21,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-021-036","startDateTime":"1972-03-08T18:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-08T18:58:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Mar-1972","startTime":"1:57 PM","endDate":"8-Mar-1972","endTime":"1:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On March 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 1:57 pm to 1:58 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 021-036 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 21-36\n\nDate: March 9, 1972\nTime: 1:57 pm - 1:58 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler..\n\n[See Conversation No. 322-35]\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n               -Forthcoming meeting with Ziegler\n                      -Forthcoming press briefing\n                           -Busing\n                                -Potential question\n                      -Timing","filename":["021-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:19:11","tapeEnd":"01:19:36","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"021-035","nextCode":"021-037","transcript":[{"start":1.69,"end":22.82,"text":"ron mr ziggler sir i'm in the eob uh when you want to come over to get anything before the briefing yes sir and uh i got a couple of thoughts on busing that i want to get out before the uh before next tuesday so i you'll probably get some question on the one chair will you well i could arrange to fine i'll be over anytime in about 15 no hurry no hurry okay sir"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinated a meeting at the Executive Office Building to discuss strategy ahead of an upcoming press briefing. Nixon specifically sought to outline his position on the contentious issue of busing before the following Tuesday. They agreed to confer shortly to ensure Ziegler was prepared to handle potential media inquiries on the subject.","topics":["Ronald Ziegler","Busing","Press relations","White House strategy","Public policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:08:08.491Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-ziegler","busing","press-relations","white-house-strategy","public-policy"],"audioDurationSec":25,"audioFiles":[{"file":"021-036.mp3","bytes":593710,"durationSec":24.67,"bitrate":192557,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/021-036.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/021-036","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/21/conversation-021-036","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}