{"conversationCode":"021-122","tapeNumber":21,"conversationNumber":122,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-021-122","startDateTime":"1972-03-21T00:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-21T00:37:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Mar-1972","startTime":"7:36 PM","endDate":"20-Mar-1972","endTime":"7:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 7:36 pm to 7:37 pm. 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Smith\n               -Shafer\n               -Manescu\n                      -Translation\n                           -National Security Council [NSC\n               -Smith\n               -Shafer","filename":["021-122-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:19:05","tapeEnd":"04:20:34","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"021-121","nextCode":"021-123","tapeTranscriptFile":"021a.mp3,021c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":8553,"end":8554.35,"text":"I think we're a little too tight on the schedule, and I want you to move..."},{"start":8557.83,"end":8565.4,"text":"I mean, after Monesco you've got to move the shaper at 5.30 and put the other fellow at 5 o'clock."},{"start":8567.38,"end":8568,"text":"You have it there?"},{"start":8568.54,"end":8571.58,"text":"I've got it."},{"start":8571.64,"end":8572.96,"text":"Yeah, well, I'll tell you what it is."},{"start":8573.58,"end":8574.12,"text":"It's Smith."},{"start":8574.36,"end":8579.63,"text":"Smith should be at 5, because we'll never finish with the Romanian after translation."},{"start":8580.47,"end":8583.87,"text":"So if you can't do it in 15 minutes, it takes you to tell you that, that he forgot."},{"start":8584.64,"end":8590.75,"text":"And Smith, therefore, he needs a half hour, so you've got to put him at five."},{"start":8590.81,"end":8592.83,"text":"Put Schaefer at 5.30."},{"start":8594.91,"end":8596.81,"text":"Well, put him at 5.30 for that reason."},{"start":8596.87,"end":8598.09,"text":"That may get him for five minutes."},{"start":8598.17,"end":8608.03,"text":"But the main thing is, you can't put Smith at 4.30 after Manescu at 4.15, because Manescu will never get through in 15 minutes."},{"start":8608.08,"end":8608.64,"text":"That's right."},{"start":8609.17,"end":8610.37,"text":"With the translation, you see."},{"start":8610.41,"end":8612.43,"text":"With the translation, always double the time."},{"start":8612.55,"end":8614.53,"text":"Whatever NSC may tell you, double the time."},{"start":8614.61,"end":8614.85,"text":"All right."},{"start":8614.87,"end":8616.33,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":8616.69,"end":8622.47,"text":"So, in other words, Smith at 5, Schaefer at 5.30, and then give me a little more time, and I hope it's managed by 6 o'clock."},{"start":8622.59,"end":8622.89,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":8623.17,"end":8623.35,"text":"All right."},{"start":8623.55,"end":8623.79,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8623.99,"end":8624.27,"text":"All right."},{"start":8624.33,"end":8624.69,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8635.66,"end":8635.76,"text":"Yes?"},{"start":8635.78,"end":8635.96,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8635.98,"end":8638.66,"text":"Mr. President, I'm Secretary Connolly, returning your call."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":8553,"end":8643.25,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed his aide, Stephen B. 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