Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 021-128
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 1972 at 11:19 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/021-128

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[2:32:20] Surviving well, as a matter of fact.
[2:32:21] I think we're going to have a good week this week.
[2:32:24] Haven't got any more on the typewriter thing.
[2:32:27] No, Erlichman, I think, broke up the date as much as we had.
[2:32:31] Yeah, yeah.
[2:32:32] Things have turned a little bit, Mr. President.
[2:32:35] The press, as you may have noticed, is...
[2:32:38] A little more jumpy?
[2:32:41] What did he tell them?
[2:33:02] Until the Democrats make their case again, we're going to stop dealing with the president.
[2:33:10] Good.
[2:33:10] Democrats decided to call off any hearings.
[2:33:13] They're going out for three days of hearings, yeah.
[2:33:15] Monday, Monday and Tuesday.
[2:33:16] All right.
[2:33:18] From their standpoint, I think it's kind of stupid.
[2:33:19] I think they're going out there for too long.
[2:33:49] I know, because they have to have some reason to get the document, I know.
[2:33:55] Did they work that out?
[2:33:57] The Bureau is?
[2:34:13] You know, I would certainly think, though, that the East...
[2:34:17] I know, I know, they didn't.
[2:34:19] I'm a bastard.
[2:34:44] Just, it's a blackout.
[2:34:46] For sure.
[2:34:46] His permission, that's the most arrogant thing I ever heard of.
[2:34:55] Right, right.
[2:35:14] I thought you'd be interested to know that Sindlinger came, and his wife's parents were born in Turkey, so that was the best thing we could have done.
[2:35:26] He was just tickled to death.
[2:35:27] He's an interesting fellow.
[2:35:28] Did you get to talk to him?
[2:35:29] No, I couldn't, because, you know, I just had a hundred people.
[2:35:32] I just saw him in the line.
[2:35:33] But I mentioned the fact that he talked to you, and he was a great pollster, and I built him up.
[2:35:37] You know what I mean?
[2:35:37] I gave him half a minute.
[2:35:39] But I know he was terribly pleased.
[2:35:41] I knew his wife was from the Middle East.
[2:35:43] I didn't know which country.
[2:35:44] Well, that's right.
[2:35:46] He's actually Armenian, but lived in Turkey.
[2:35:50] Right.
[2:35:50] Right.
[2:35:52] Right.
[2:39:16] Of course, I suppose that tomorrow we'll see Manny and his crowd jumping off the wage bar, huh?
[2:39:21] Well, Fitzsimmons is not going to the meeting right now, and he will stay on the board no matter what.
[2:39:31] In fact, he's staying in Florida.
[2:39:34] Right.
[2:39:35] He's defying me.
[2:39:37] Good.
[2:39:39] Woodcock, he thinks, well, of course, because Fitzsimmons got him.
[2:39:59] But I think we've got to take them on if they jump ship.
[2:40:03] The line that George had of
[2:40:05] Well, just continue and leave a light in the window.
[2:40:08] Bullshit.
[2:40:09] They're not going to kick us.
[2:40:10] I'm going to take them on for thumbing their nose at the government.
[2:40:13] This is it for meaning.
[2:40:15] Huh?
[2:40:15] Well, his excuse will not be, in my opinion, will not be the...
[2:40:31] I sent George over to see him today.
[2:40:56] We've done our part, and boy, if he goes, believe me,
[2:41:00] He thought he got a rip in Miami.
[2:41:01] Wait till I take him on real hard.
[2:41:12] I can praise Woodcock, Simmons, and them, this little group of willful men, for their special interest above the national interest.
[2:41:35] Incidentally, I noticed an interesting thing from Stein, that the Michigan opinion survey is now beginning to get more in tune with Senlinger.
[2:41:50] Isn't that interesting?
[2:41:51] Yes, sir.
[2:41:52] So maybe old Sindlinger hadn't been wrong after all.
[2:41:54] Remember, we thought maybe he was crazy.
[2:41:56] He's been right on in the market.
[2:41:59] He's pulled every turn on the market.
[2:42:03] Does he still show a high consumer base?
[2:42:05] Yeah, he's up to, well, right now he's up to 137, 136 and a half, which is the highest he has been in years on the market.
[2:42:23] I used to get it.
[2:42:26] I'd never get it again.
[2:42:27] You get it in your eyes, too?
[2:42:30] Oh, it's horrible, horrible.
[2:42:45] Don't bother with it.
[2:42:47] We'll just outgrow it.
[2:42:48] Take your 10 or 15.
[2:45:46] What in the hell has happened to our investigation of those that contributed to the Miami Convention?
[2:45:51] Did that come of abort like everything else I ordered?
[2:45:55] Well, that came of abort largely because what they did in Miami was spread it so widely.
[2:46:00] We do have your picture, but at the moment it doesn't prove it.
[2:46:06] The biggest single attack that we have.
[2:46:10] You know, the really good thing that that fellow, Janine, went on and said,
[2:46:39] By God, it was a good business deal.
[2:46:40] He's exactly right.
[2:46:42] With three hotels, you know, there are not many hotels in the same area.
[2:46:46] Three hotels, this makes it for them.
[2:46:48] Yeah.
[2:47:07] I thought our drug thing got more play than I realized it would.
[2:47:09] It was beautiful, of course, because yesterday broke the day.
[2:47:14] Today they probably gave a little too much.
[2:47:16] They did.
[2:47:17] They played it again tonight.
[2:47:19] Well, I mean, that's in Turkey, which is a big industry.
[2:47:23] They play both days together.
[2:47:27] I think it's a good thing.
[2:47:28] You're kind of saying it's a good thing.
[2:47:32] It's a good thing.
[2:47:37] Did they get that?
[2:47:38] I put, you know, they prepared some comments for me, but it was so damn bland, you know, about compassion for the addicts, or about puke.
[2:47:47] And I said, oh no.
[2:47:49] So I just said, I said, your job is to knock the heads together of the 13 agencies.
[2:47:54] And I said, all of it is competing between agencies as a credit.
[2:47:59] An empire building is going to stop, and either you knock the heads together, and if they aren't knocked together, heads are going to roll.
[2:48:04] Did that get over in television?
[2:48:06] Yes, it did.
[2:48:06] Don't you think that's a good line?
[2:48:07] It's a marvelous line.
[2:48:08] My man, he had this thing, and he came back, and he said it's real.
[2:48:13] He said, my God, he said that was the real punchline.
[2:48:17] And they carried it, and that was the one I watched.
[2:48:21] And I heard that it was an old version, although I didn't know.
[2:48:34] Well, I think you make that point right there.
[2:57:49] Ja.
[2:57:50] Mr. President, Mr. Butterfield?
[2:57:51] Ja.