Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 22 › Conversation 022-020

Nixon phone call with Gurney on George Meany and Florida primary

Friday, March 24, 1972 · 2:22 PM–2:23 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Gurney, Edward J.Conversation022-020 on Tape 22 (tape position 00:53:45–00:54:53)StartFriday, March 24, 1972 at 2:22 PMEndFriday, March 24, 1972 at 2:23 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 022-020 ↗

President Nixon initiated this call to commend Senator Edward Gurney for his political performance and his recent support during the Florida primary. The two discussed their shared disdain for George Meany, with Nixon comparing the labor leader's perceived arrogance to 19th-century business titans. Nixon encouraged Gurney to continue his aggressive public stance, reaffirming their mutual alignment against Meany's influence.

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hello senator gurney hello yes mr president i just want you to know you know i uh have to stay out of these uh various things that you fellows engage in down there but that i think you're just doing a great job well i appreciate that and i've and uh you sort of wonder you know what the media doesn't give the coverage that you would think but
A hardly day goes by, but my news summary doesn't say Senator Gurney gave him hell.
So keep it up.
Don't worry.
And thanks for what you did in Florida the other day.
Well, you had a great victory, Don.
Good.
And incidentally, let me tell you that I'm going to continue to take a damn hard line with this meanie fella.
I don't think we can let him get away with this.
Well, I don't think so either.
He's arrogant.
He sets himself above the president.
Well, he's taken the eye, the view that, you know, that the public be damned.
Now, we no more, we couldn't let business get away with that in the latter part of the 19th century, and we're not going to let labor leaders get away with it in the latter part of the 20th century.
Well, I'm for you 100%.
Okay.
I think the people are getting that message.
Right.
Well, good luck and thank you.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye-bye.

On March 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Gurney talked on the telephone from 2:22 pm to 2:23 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 22-20

Date: March 24, 1972
Time: 2:22 pm - 2:23 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Edward J. Gurney.

[See Conversation No. 326-22]

     Gurney’s performance as Senator
         -The President’s view
         -Media coverage
         -The President’s news summary
         -Florida primary

     George Meany
          -Gurney’s view
          -Views
          -Historical analogy
               -19th Century
          -Gurney’s response
          -Public response
  • 022-017 1:29 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:29 pm and 2:05 pm.
  • 022-018 2:05 PM · 32 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 2:05 pm to 2:06 pm.
  • 326-020 2:05 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:05 pm to 2:06 pm.
  • 022-019 2:06 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:06 pm and 2:22 pm.
  • 326-021 2:06 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:06 pm and 2:22 pm.
  • 326-022 2:22 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Gurney met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:22 pm to 2:23 pm.
  • 328-001 2:23 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:23 pm and 2:59 pm.
  • 693-001 3:02 PM · 36 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ralph Harris, John F. Osborne, Peter Lisagor, Charles W. Bailey, Robert B. Semple, Jr., Donald Bacon, Jack Germond, R. H. Shackford, Jim Cary, Sarah McLendon, Lucian C Warren, John Cauley, Frank van der Linden, Jim Deakin, Jesse Lewis, Gaylord Shaw, Bob Toth, David Kraslow, Courtney Sheldon, Jerald F. ("Jerry") terHorst, Dave Barnett, Martin Nolan, Jack Leacocas, Clark R. Mollenhoff, Martin Schram, Edgar Allen Poe, Fred Bonavita, George Embrey, Frank Kane, Ed O'Brien, Phil Potter, and Ross Mark met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:02 pm to 3:39 pm.

Conversation 022-020, March 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-020 (accessed October 15, 2026).