{"conversationCode":"022-024","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":24,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-024","startDateTime":"1972-03-27T15:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-27T16:11:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Mar-1972","startTime":"10:55 AM","endDate":"27-Mar-1972","endTime":"11:11 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Ziegler, Ronald L.; White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On March 27, 1972, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:11 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-024 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-24\n\nDate: March 27, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:55 am and 11:11 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nRonald L. Ziegler talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for call to Charles W. Colson\n\nZiegler conferred with the President.\n\n     Wire service\n\n     Testimony\n\n[End of conferral]\n\nZiegler talked with an unknown woman in Colson’s office.\n\n     Request for call to Colson\n\n     Colson’s location\n          -Joan [Hall]\n          -Capitol Hill\n          -Return call","filename":["022-024.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:00:20","tapeEnd":"01:01:06","participantsList":["Ziegler, Ronald L.","White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"022-023","nextCode":"022-025","transcript":[{"start":0.93,"end":2.79,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":2.93,"end":4.17,"text":"Could I have Chuck Colson, please?"},{"start":4.57,"end":7.18,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7.5,"end":12.11,"text":"Mr. President?"},{"start":12.13,"end":20.29,"text":"I was wondering just a moment now."},{"start":20.3,"end":21.67,"text":"The testimony, I think..."},{"start":24.97,"end":25.97,"text":"Mr. Coulson's office."},{"start":26.25,"end":27.12,"text":"Hi, this is Ron Ziegler."},{"start":27.14,"end":28.58,"text":"Could I speak to Chuck a moment, please?"},{"start":28.82,"end":30.12,"text":"Mr. Ziegler, he's not here."},{"start":30.14,"end":31.11,"text":"Oh, where'd he go?"},{"start":31.17,"end":32.11,"text":"Do you want to speak with Joan?"},{"start":32.13,"end":33.03,"text":"Can you hold on just a minute?"},{"start":33.27,"end":34.79,"text":"No, no, I want to speak with Chuck."},{"start":34.81,"end":36.16,"text":"Well, he's just left for the Hill."},{"start":36.4,"end":37.32,"text":"Oh, he's left for the Hill."},{"start":38.9,"end":39.02,"text":"Okay."},{"start":39.71,"end":41.91,"text":"Can I ask him to call you as soon as he gets back?"},{"start":41.93,"end":42.51,"text":"Yeah, please do."},{"start":42.69,"end":42.91,"text":"Okay, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler attempted to reach Special Counsel Charles Colson on behalf of President Nixon to discuss urgent matters regarding wire service reports and pending testimony. Upon learning that Colson was unavailable and attending to business on Capitol Hill, Ziegler requested an immediate return call once Colson became reachable. The dialogue highlights the administration's efforts to coordinate responses to sensitive press and legislative developments.","topics":["Charles Colson","Ronald Ziegler","Press relations","Testimony","Capitol Hill"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:19:16.667Z"},"topicSlugs":["charles-colson","ronald-ziegler","press-relations","testimony","capitol-hill"],"audioDurationSec":46,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-024.mp3","bytes":1102784,"durationSec":45.89,"bitrate":192269,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-024.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-024","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-024","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}