{"conversationCode":"022-028","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-028","startDateTime":"1972-03-27T16:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-27T17:06:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Mar-1972","startTime":"11:11 AM","endDate":"27-Mar-1972","endTime":"12:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Finch, Robert H.;","description":"On March 27, 1972, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman and Robert H. Finch talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:11 am and 12:06 pm. 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Beard\n                 -Request for call to Finch\n                       -Meeting of ITT executives and Finch\n                             -Finch’s Latin American trip\n                             -Chile\n           -Finch calls to ITT\n                 -William R. Merriam and Edward J. Gerrity, Jr.\n                       -Finch’s denial\n                       -Content\n                             -Beard\n           -Possible calls to ITT\n                 -Herbert G. Klein\n                 -Robert C. Wilson","filename":["022-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:02:10","tapeEnd":"01:03:22","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Finch, Robert H."],"prevCode":"022-027","nextCode":"022-029","transcript":[{"start":0.82,"end":12.36,"text":"Bob, just wanting to check this thing out absolutely certainly, you didn't call ITT on anything on the San Diego thing, did you?"},{"start":12.38,"end":12.6,"text":"Never."},{"start":12.68,"end":13.8,"text":"Never talked to anybody."},{"start":14.08,"end":15.8,"text":"That's what you had said before."},{"start":15.82,"end":22.19,"text":"With the ITT company."},{"start":22.75,"end":36.48,"text":"When was that, and at what point in time?"},{"start":36.82,"end":38.52,"text":"Oh, Lord, that was just before I went to Latin America."},{"start":38.54,"end":40.5,"text":"That was well after the convention had all been determined."},{"start":40.54,"end":42.91,"text":"That was purely to talk about their expropriation problems."},{"start":42.93,"end":43.19,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":43.49,"end":44.45,"text":"No, I never talked to anybody."},{"start":44.81,"end":46.88,"text":"And you never have called any of them?"},{"start":47.08,"end":47.78,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":47.92,"end":53.09,"text":"I mean, talking about telephone... Like Miriam or Garrity specifically, this thing that Dita Beard's talking about?"},{"start":53.41,"end":53.91,"text":"Not at all."},{"start":54.61,"end":55.59,"text":"Neither with..."},{"start":56.23,"end":57.65,"text":"I mean, just never had any conversations, period."},{"start":57.71,"end":60.22,"text":"Telephone or they initiated or I initiated."},{"start":60.24,"end":60.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.64,"end":61.56,"text":"Do you think Herb did?"},{"start":63.08,"end":66.61,"text":"No, I would think Wilson was the one who kept all the action."},{"start":66.67,"end":68.59,"text":"I've never discussed it with her."},{"start":69.74,"end":69.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":69.86,"end":70.14,"text":"Okay."},{"start":70.4,"end":72.02,"text":"Thanks."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"H. R. Haldeman queried Robert H. Finch to definitively clarify his involvement with ITT executives amid the ongoing controversy surrounding Dita D. Beard. Finch categorically denied placing any calls to ITT regarding the San Diego matter or communicating with William R. Merriam or Edward J. Gerrity, Jr. regarding the specific allegations raised by Beard. He confirmed only having past, unrelated discussions with the company concerning expropriation issues in Chile, while suggesting that Robert C. Wilson was the primary point of contact for ITT’s actions.","topics":["ITT case","Dita D. Beard","Robert H. Finch","H. R. 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