{"conversationCode":"022-038","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-038","startDateTime":"1972-03-28T22:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-28T22:31:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Mar-1972","startTime":"5:30 PM","endDate":"28-Mar-1972","endTime":"5:31 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 5:30 pm to 5:31 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-38\n\nDate: March 28, 1972\nTime: 5:30 pm - 5:31 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 327-9]\n\n     Barber\n          -Schedule","filename":["022-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:50:50","tapeEnd":"01:51:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"022-037","nextCode":"022-039","transcript":[{"start":3.05,"end":3.45,"text":"Hello."},{"start":4.38,"end":5,"text":"Yes, sir, Steve."},{"start":5.06,"end":6.74,"text":"Is the barber here today?"},{"start":6.86,"end":7.44,"text":"Yes, sir, he is."},{"start":7.94,"end":10.43,"text":"Yeah, would you check to see what his situation is now?"},{"start":10.53,"end":12.65,"text":"I mean, between now and 6 o'clock."},{"start":13.14,"end":13.94,"text":"All right, sir, fine."},{"start":14.28,"end":14.78,"text":"Call you back."},{"start":14.88,"end":15.76,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to inquire about the availability of his barber. The President specifically requested that Bull check the barber's schedule for the remainder of the afternoon before 6:00 pm. Bull acknowledged the request and committed to verifying the information and reporting back to the President.","topics":["Scheduling","White House operations","Staff communications","Personal services"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:20:34.145Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","white-house-operations","staff-communications","personal-services"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-038.mp3","bytes":431332,"durationSec":17.9,"bitrate":192752,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}