{"conversationCode":"022-039","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":39,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-039","startDateTime":"1972-03-28T22:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-28T22:32:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Mar-1972","startTime":"5:31 PM","endDate":"28-Mar-1972","endTime":"5:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 5:31 pm to 5:32 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-039 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-39\n\nDate: March 28, 1972\nTime: 5:31 pm - 5:32 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nStephen B. Bull talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 327-10]\n\n     Barber\n          -Visit by the President\n          -Time of day\n          -Appointment","filename":["022-039.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:51:08","tapeEnd":"01:51:37","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"022-038","nextCode":"022-040","transcript":[{"start":2,"end":3.35,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.59,"end":4.79,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.81,"end":6.87,"text":"Mr. President, he can take you right now, sir."},{"start":7.59,"end":12.18,"text":"Will you tell him at what time you have now?"},{"start":12.24,"end":14.2,"text":"Just about 5.32 or so."},{"start":14.54,"end":14.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":15.94,"end":20.51,"text":"Well, it'll take me about 10 minutes before I can be there, so he can take anybody he wants."},{"start":20.53,"end":24.59,"text":"I mean, in other words, I'll be there at about at a quarter to six, tell him."},{"start":24.83,"end":25.23,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":25.25,"end":25.37,"text":"Fine."},{"start":25.39,"end":27.08,"text":"So that'll give him 15 minutes to do somebody else."},{"start":27.3,"end":27.6,"text":"All right."},{"start":27.62,"end":28.32,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon coordinates with Stephen B. Bull to delay his scheduled arrival for a meeting with Barber. Nixon instructs Bull to inform Barber that he will arrive at approximately 5:45 pm, allowing Barber to utilize the intervening fifteen minutes for other appointments. This brief exchange serves to adjust the President's daily agenda and manage his immediate scheduling logistics.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House logistics","Stephen B. Bull","Appointment management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:20:39.273Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-logistics","stephen-b-bull","appointment-management"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-039.mp3","bytes":718470,"durationSec":29.87,"bitrate":192419,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-039.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-039","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-039","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}