{"conversationCode":"022-095","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":95,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-095","startDateTime":"1972-04-10T17:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-10T17:51:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Apr-1972","startTime":"12:50 PM","endDate":"10-Apr-1972","endTime":"12:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On April 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 12:50 pm to 12:51 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-095 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-95\n\nDate: April 10, 1972\nTime: 12:50 pm - 12:51 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n[See Conversation No. 705-13B]\n\n     Irini Dobrynin\n           -Proposed meeting with Mrs. Nixon\n                -Time\n           -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin\n                -Return to Moscow\n                -Mrs. Nixon’s schedule\n                      -Time\n                -Location","filename":["022-095.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:54:42","tapeEnd":"03:55:35","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"022-094","nextCode":"022-096","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.18,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.63,"end":3.61,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.97,"end":4.37,"text":"Hi, Dick."},{"start":5.73,"end":17.03,"text":"For foreign policy reasons, we'd like very much if you could see Mrs. Dobrynin after your lunch tomorrow, tomorrow afternoon, about 4 o'clock or so."},{"start":17.07,"end":18.43,"text":"Would you be available to do that?"},{"start":18.45,"end":20.35,"text":"Dobrynin's going back to Moscow Friday."},{"start":20.37,"end":24.24,"text":"She isn't going, but it's just a little move we want to make."},{"start":24.36,"end":28.8,"text":"She'll just come in and chat about the trip and so forth."},{"start":28.82,"end":30.32,"text":"Well, let's see."},{"start":32.11,"end":33.91,"text":"Well, maybe 4.30."},{"start":33.93,"end":35.53,"text":"I have a tea after lunch."},{"start":35.59,"end":36.73,"text":"Well, how about making it 5?"},{"start":37.38,"end":38.38,"text":"No, 4.30 would be fine."},{"start":38.4,"end":38.66,"text":"4.30?"},{"start":39.08,"end":39.74,"text":"Fine."},{"start":40.34,"end":40.56,"text":"All right."},{"start":40.68,"end":44,"text":"And shall we tell her to find wherever you want to receive her?"},{"start":44.02,"end":47.39,"text":"Why don't you receive her in the yellow oval?"},{"start":47.71,"end":48.91,"text":"Yeah, I think that'll be fine."},{"start":48.97,"end":49.89,"text":"If you'll do that, fine."},{"start":49.91,"end":50.69,"text":"Yeah, okay."},{"start":50.71,"end":51.45,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":51.61,"end":51.85,"text":"Good."},{"start":51.87,"end":53.27,"text":"4.30."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon requested that First Lady Pat Nixon meet with Irini Dobrynin, the wife of Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy Dobrynin, prior to the Ambassador's scheduled return to Moscow. The President sought this meeting for foreign policy purposes, framing it as a strategic diplomatic gesture. They agreed to schedule the appointment for 4:30 p.m. the following day, to be held in the Yellow Oval Room.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Irini Dobrynin","Anatoliy Dobrynin","Soviet-American relations","Diplomatic protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:25:43.610Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","irini-dobrynin","anatoliy-dobrynin","soviet-american-relations","diplomatic-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-095.mp3","bytes":1288358,"durationSec":53.61,"bitrate":192273,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-095.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-095","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-095","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}