{"conversationCode":"022-113","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":113,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-113","startDateTime":"1972-04-12T01:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-12T01:01:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Apr-1972","startTime":"8:00 PM","endDate":"11-Apr-1972","endTime":"8:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hoover, J. Edgar;","description":"On April 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover talked on the telephone from 8:00 pm to 8:01 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-113 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-113\n\nDate: April 11, 1972\nTime: 8:00 pm - 8:01 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with J. Edgar Hoover.\n\n     Greetings\n\n     Hijacking incidents\n          -Hoover’s handling\n                -The President’s compliments\n          -Provo, Utah: San Diego: and Seattle\n          -Ransom money\n                -Recovery\n          -Hijackers\n                -Arrests\n          -The President’s compliments to agents\n\n     Vietnam\n          -The President’s orders to attack\n               -Necessity\n               -Public support\n          -Current activities","filename":["022-113.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:31:52","tapeEnd":"04:33:26","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hoover, J. Edgar"],"prevCode":"022-112","nextCode":"022-114","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":4.74,"text":"$499,000."},{"start":4.76,"end":30.26,"text":"Short $35,000."},{"start":30.46,"end":35.9,"text":"Yeah, that's great."},{"start":42.47,"end":43.09,"text":"Great job."},{"start":43.13,"end":45.96,"text":"And you tell all the men that I called you and let them know, will you?"},{"start":47.26,"end":48.16,"text":"I'm really proud of them."},{"start":48.74,"end":56.27,"text":"I just wanted you to know, too, Tony, I hope you don't disapprove of the fact that I'm kicking the hell out of North Vietnam at the moment."},{"start":56.29,"end":56.73,"text":"Out of who?"},{"start":56.75,"end":57.39,"text":"Out of North Vietnam."},{"start":59.13,"end":60.97,"text":"Yeah, we're pouring it on."},{"start":61.03,"end":63.21,"text":"They came across the border and I said, this is it."},{"start":63.43,"end":64.21,"text":"So we're letting them have it."},{"start":68.96,"end":69.76,"text":"Well, we have to do it."},{"start":73.48,"end":73.94,"text":"That's right."},{"start":80.07,"end":80.61,"text":"That's right."},{"start":81.03,"end":88.53,"text":"Well, we've got a few things going on tonight."},{"start":88.59,"end":90.58,"text":"You'll read about it in the morning paper."},{"start":90.62,"end":90.96,"text":"Okay."},{"start":91.88,"end":93.99,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated this call to commend J. Edgar Hoover and his agents for their successful handling of recent aircraft hijacking incidents, which resulted in the recovery of significant ransom funds and the apprehension of perpetrators. Following these pleasantries, the two men transitioned to the Vietnam War, with Nixon explaining the necessity of his decision to escalate military strikes against North Vietnam in response to border incursions. Hoover expressed support for the President’s aggressive military posture before the brief conversation concluded.","topics":["Aircraft Hijacking","Law Enforcement","Vietnam War","Military Strategy","J. Edgar Hoover"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:27:21.975Z"},"topicSlugs":["aircraft-hijacking","law-enforcement","vietnam-war","military-strategy","j-edgar-hoover"],"audioDurationSec":94,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-113.mp3","bytes":2256351,"durationSec":93.95,"bitrate":192132,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-113.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-113","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-113","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}