{"conversationCode":"022-127","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":127,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-127","startDateTime":"1972-04-15T17:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-15T17:27:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1972","startTime":"12:25 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1972","endTime":"12:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Arbuthnot, Raymond J.;","description":"On April 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond J. Arbuthnot talked on the telephone from 12:25 pm to 12:27 pm. 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Arbuthnot.\n\n[See Conversation No. 329-39]\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/11/2018.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[022-127-w001]\n[Duration: 1m 40s]\n\n     Death of Zelda Arbuthnot\n          -Condolences\n\n     The President's Canadian trip\n\n     Raymond J. Arbuthnot’s ranch\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Support of the President\n          -Attacks on the North\n\n     The President’s family\n\n     Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo\n          -Meeting with the President\n          -Age\n\n     Raymond J. Arbuthnot\n         -Trip east\n               -Entertainment\n         -Raymond J. Arbuthnot’s daughters\n               -President’s greetings\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["022-127.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:44:55","tapeEnd":"04:46:37","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Arbuthnot, Raymond J."],"prevCode":"022-126","nextCode":"022-128","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Raymond J. Arbuthnot to offer condolences on the death of his wife, Zelda. The conversation touched on Nixon's recent trip to Canada, the state of Arbuthnot's ranch, and support for Nixon's actions in Vietnam, including attacks on the North. Arbuthnot expressed strong support for the President's policies, and they briefly discussed Charles \"Bebe\" Rebozo. Arbuthnot mentioned he would be traveling East soon and hoped to see the President.","topics":["Condolences","Vietnam War","Canadian trip","Ranch","Charles G. Rebozo","Support for President"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:55:52.077Z"},"topicSlugs":["condolences","vietnam-war","canadian-trip","ranch","bebe-rebozo","support-for-president"],"audioDurationSec":97,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-127.mp3","bytes":2324688,"durationSec":96.79,"bitrate":192142,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","transcript":[{"start":0,"end":4,"speaker":"Operator","text":"[unintelligible] I'll place the call."},{"start":4,"end":7,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Ray?"},{"start":7,"end":9,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Yes, Mr. President."},{"start":9,"end":14,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Listen, I just got back from Canada and learned about Zelda. I'm so sorry."},{"start":14,"end":18,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Well, thank you. Thank you. She had been failing so long."},{"start":18,"end":20,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah. It's tough."},{"start":20,"end":25,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"It's a blessing. It really is. She was totally incapacitated."},{"start":25,"end":28,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah. Where are you? Out at the ranch?"},{"start":28,"end":31,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Yes, I'm out at the ranch, and we're getting along fine."},{"start":31,"end":33,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Good. How's the ranch looking?"},{"start":33,"end":37,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Pretty good. We had an inch and seven tenths of rain a couple days ago."},{"start":37,"end":39,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, boy! That really helps, doesn't it?"},{"start":39,"end":46,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Well, that greened it right up. It's really wonderful. We're proud of what you're doing. Give them hell over there in Vietnam."},{"start":46,"end":47,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Don't worry, we're giving it to them."},{"start":47,"end":50,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"I see you bombed Haiphong and-"},{"start":50,"end":52,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"We bombed a lot of other things."},{"start":52,"end":53,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Good."},{"start":53,"end":55,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"They have no right to march into the south like that."},{"start":55,"end":59,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Well, that's what we all feel. There's so much sentiment for you out here you just can't imagine."},{"start":59,"end":63,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, good. Pat and the girls wanted to be, to send their very best to you, and-"},{"start":63,"end":64,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Well, God bless them."},{"start":64,"end":68,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"-Bebe was, Bebe told me when I arrived. He's here."},{"start":68,"end":71,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Well, good. You know, he and I were both born the same day."},{"start":71,"end":75,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"I know that, but he's not quite as old as you, is he? Or a year older?"},{"start":75,"end":79,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"No, I'm, oh, I'm a year older, yeah. He was born, well, two years older."},{"start":79,"end":80,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, anyway, Ray-"},{"start":80,"end":83,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"I'm coming back East pretty soon. I want to see you."},{"start":83,"end":86,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Fine, and we'll give you a room, give you a bed."},{"start":86,"end":88,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"All right, sir. [laughs]"},{"start":88,"end":90,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Give my best to the girls, will you?"},{"start":90,"end":92,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"I sure will. You tell the folks hi for me."},{"start":92,"end":93,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Okay, my friend."},{"start":93,"end":94,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Thanks so much for calling."},{"start":94,"end":95,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Bye."},{"start":95,"end":96,"speaker":"Arbuthnot","text":"Bye-bye."}],"transcriptCreatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:34:56.911Z","transcriptModel":"google/gemini-3.8-flash","transcriptSource":"audio-llm","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-127.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-127","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/022/conversation-022-127","catalogNaId":417193219,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417193219","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}