{"conversationCode":"022-143","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":143,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-143","startDateTime":"1972-04-16T15:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-16T19:25:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1972","startTime":"10:55 AM","endDate":"16-Apr-1972","endTime":"2:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.;","description":"On April 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 2:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-143 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-143\n\nDate: April 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:55 am and 2:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Major John V. (“Jack”) Brennan.\n\n     Sequoia\n          -Availability\n               -Check with Alexander P. Butterfield\n          -Offer to William P. Rogers\n\n     Camp David\n         -Weather conditions\n              -Predictions\n         -Thurmont, Maryland\n         -Request for call to Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon","filename":["022-143.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:38:52","tapeEnd":"05:39:45","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, John V."],"prevCode":"022-142","nextCode":"022-144","transcript":[{"start":2.06,"end":4.74,"text":"Mr. President, Major Brennan's on the line, sir."},{"start":5.3,"end":6.08,"text":"Oh, yes, sir."},{"start":6.72,"end":11.91,"text":"Oh, I wanted you to... You'll have to check with Butterfield to be sure it isn't in use, but I wanted..."},{"start":12.18,"end":16.18,"text":"The Sequoia is now being... is available, isn't it, now?"},{"start":16.2,"end":17.08,"text":"It is, Mr. President."},{"start":17.75,"end":23.04,"text":"You could check, and if it is not in use tonight, you could have..."},{"start":23.72,"end":26.27,"text":"Butterfield, Offred, or you could to Rogers to use."},{"start":26.51,"end":27.43,"text":"Right on, sir."},{"start":27.45,"end":28.13,"text":"See if you'd like to."},{"start":28.77,"end":32.96,"text":"Just have to tell him I'm not going, of course, that I'm at Camp David, and if he'd like to, he could take it out, okay?"},{"start":33.2,"end":36.05,"text":"All right, sir, I might mention the weather is terrible at Camp David."},{"start":36.75,"end":39.71,"text":"It's raining very hard now, and I'm predicting some of the showers all afternoon."},{"start":40.22,"end":40.4,"text":"Oh."},{"start":40.41,"end":46.01,"text":"And we can't land at camp, and I have a helicopter going up now to see if we could go into Thermal, but it won't be a very pleasant day outdoors."},{"start":46.93,"end":47.25,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":47.29,"end":50.51,"text":"Well, hold, hold, and I'll call Mrs. Nixon."},{"start":50.53,"end":50.98,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":51.24,"end":52.1,"text":"Right on, sir."},{"start":52.4,"end":52.5,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed Major John V. Brennan to offer the presidential yacht, the Sequoia, for Secretary of State William P. Rogers's use, provided it was not currently scheduled by Alexander P. Butterfield. The President also discussed the poor weather conditions at Camp David, noting that heavy rain and potential travel limitations necessitated a follow-up call to First Lady Pat Nixon. Brennan was tasked with coordinating these logistics and reporting back on the availability of the vessel.","topics":["Sequoia","William P. Rogers","Camp David","Logistics","Pat Nixon"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:30:04.567Z"},"topicSlugs":["sequoia","william-p-rogers","camp-david","logistics","pat-nixon"],"audioDurationSec":52,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-143.mp3","bytes":1260146,"durationSec":52.45,"bitrate":192205,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-143.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-143","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-143","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}