{"conversationCode":"022-147","tapeNumber":22,"conversationNumber":147,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-022-147","startDateTime":"1972-04-16T15:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-16T19:25:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1972","startTime":"10:55 AM","endDate":"16-Apr-1972","endTime":"2:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.;","description":"On April 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 2:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 022-147 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 22-147\n\nDate: April 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:55 am and 2:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Major John V. (“Jack”) Brennan.\n\n     Sequoia\n          -Offer to William P. Rogers\n               -Delay\n\n     The President’s trip to Camp David\n          -Weather\n               -Predictions\n               -Report to the President\n          -Use of Sequoia","filename":["022-147.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:40:49","tapeEnd":"05:41:33","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, John V."],"prevCode":"022-146","nextCode":"022-148","transcript":[{"start":2.26,"end":4.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.04,"end":9.04,"text":"Hold that offer to Rogers because I'll tell you what we'll do."},{"start":9.51,"end":14.99,"text":"Let me know around 3.30 or I could go up there as late as that and make it worthwhile."},{"start":15.61,"end":18.82,"text":"Whether the weather is, they don't know."},{"start":18.86,"end":22.26,"text":"It might clear by, say, two or three hours."},{"start":22.46,"end":23.22,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":23.24,"end":24.44,"text":"And it might not."},{"start":24.46,"end":27.84,"text":"But at the present time, they predict thunderstorms."},{"start":28.48,"end":29.68,"text":"For the afternoon?"},{"start":29.7,"end":30.29,"text":"For the afternoon."},{"start":30.37,"end":31.49,"text":"I'll get it much more accurate."},{"start":31.51,"end":33.41,"text":"Well, about 3.30 if you would let me know."},{"start":33.43,"end":35.26,"text":"I will, Mr. President."},{"start":35.32,"end":38.16,"text":"And in the meantime, don't make the offer to Sequoia."},{"start":38.2,"end":39.98,"text":"I might use it myself in case I stay here."},{"start":40.29,"end":40.97,"text":"All right, Mr. President."},{"start":40.99,"end":41.57,"text":"Fine, thank you."},{"start":41.59,"end":42.39,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Major John V. Brennan regarding logistics for his potential travel to Camp David and the availability of the presidential yacht, the Sequoia. Due to uncertain weather forecasts involving predicted thunderstorms, Nixon instructed Brennan to delay offering the yacht to Secretary of State William P. Rogers. The President requested an updated weather report by 3:30 p.m. to finalize his plans for the day.","topics":["Camp David","Sequoia","William P. Rogers","Weather forecasting","Presidential travel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:30:26.178Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","sequoia","william-p-rogers","weather-forecasting","presidential-travel"],"audioDurationSec":44,"audioFiles":[{"file":"022-147.mp3","bytes":1048867,"durationSec":43.63,"bitrate":192320,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/022-147.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/022-147","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/22/conversation-022-147","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}