Nixon White House TapesTape 23 › Conversation 023-004

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on William P. Rogers

Monday, April 17, 1972 · 12:28 PM–12:31 PM ET · White House Telephone ·25 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  White House operatorConversation023-004 onTape 23StartMonday, April 17, 1972 at 12:28 PMEndMonday, April 17, 1972 at 12:31 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 023-004 ↗

President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to determine the location and availability of Secretary of State William P. Rogers. Upon learning that Rogers was still attending a hearing and remained unreachable, the President requested that a message be left for his secretary. Nixon subsequently directed the operator to reschedule his follow-up call for 3:00 p.m. due to his own impending departure for the Capitol.

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They expect to hear just any moment, and so I left word.
Oh, I'm sorry, but I'm going to the capital, see.
Oh.
I see.
He's still in the hearing, huh?
Right.
They haven't heard one word.
Oh, that's fine.
I understand.
Well, tell his secretary that I called, and I'll have to call it now around 3 o'clock.
All right, sir.
Thank you.

On April 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:31 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 23-4

Date: April 17, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:28 and 12:31 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

     William P. Rogers's location
          -Return call
                -The President's trip to Capitol
                -Message for secretary
  • 709-016 12:02 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Donald B. Rice, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, George P. Shultz, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:02 pm to 12:06 pm.
  • 709-017 12:06 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:06 pm and 12:15 pm.
  • 709-018 12:06 PM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:06 pm and 12:15 pm.
  • 709-019 12:15 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:28 pm.
  • 023-003 12:28 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 12:28 pm.
  • 709-020 12:28 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:31 pm.
  • 709-021 12:28 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:31 pm.
  • 709-022 12:31 PM · 41 sec — Manolo Sanchez and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:31 pm and 4:53 pm.

Conversation 023-004, April 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-004 (accessed September 18, 2026).