{"conversationCode":"023-004","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-004","startDateTime":"1972-04-17T17:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-17T17:31:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Apr-1972","startTime":"12:28 PM","endDate":"17-Apr-1972","endTime":"12:31 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:31 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-4\n\nDate: April 17, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:28 and 12:31 pm\n\fLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n     William P. Rogers's location\n          -Return call\n                -The President's trip to Capitol\n                -Message for secretary","filename":["023-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"023-003","nextCode":"023-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":4.54,"text":"They expect to hear just any moment, and so I left word."},{"start":5.54,"end":8.01,"text":"Oh, I'm sorry, but I'm going to the capital, see."},{"start":8.31,"end":9.47,"text":"Oh."},{"start":9.49,"end":9.81,"text":"I see."},{"start":9.83,"end":11.05,"text":"He's still in the hearing, huh?"},{"start":11.07,"end":11.29,"text":"Right."},{"start":11.52,"end":12.6,"text":"They haven't heard one word."},{"start":12.74,"end":13.32,"text":"Oh, that's fine."},{"start":13.38,"end":16.07,"text":"I understand."},{"start":16.71,"end":22.32,"text":"Well, tell his secretary that I called, and I'll have to call it now around 3 o'clock."},{"start":23.02,"end":24.14,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":24.54,"end":24.93,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to determine the location and availability of Secretary of State William P. Rogers. Upon learning that Rogers was still attending a hearing and remained unreachable, the President requested that a message be left for his secretary. Nixon subsequently directed the operator to reschedule his follow-up call for 3:00 p.m. due to his own impending departure for the Capitol.","topics":["William P. Rogers","Scheduling","White House communications","Diplomatic administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:31:59.737Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-p-rogers","scheduling","white-house-communications","diplomatic-administration"],"audioDurationSec":25,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-004.mp3","bytes":598725,"durationSec":24.89,"bitrate":192440,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}