{"conversationCode":"023-015","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-015","startDateTime":"1972-04-18T14:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-18T14:27:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Apr-1972","startTime":"9:23 AM","endDate":"18-Apr-1972","endTime":"9:27 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On April 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:23 am and 9:27 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-15\n\nDate: April 18, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:23 and 9:27 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 711-3B]\n\nThe President conferred with Henry A. Kissinger at an unknown time before the conversation\nbegan.\n\n     Request for a call to Melvin R. Laird","filename":["023-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"023-014","nextCode":"023-016","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":5.84,"text":"Dr. Laird, please."},{"start":5.86,"end":7.09,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs the White House operator to place a call to Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird. This request follows a private consultation between the President and National Security Advisor Henry A. Kissinger regarding national security or defense-related matters. The conversation functions primarily as an administrative step to facilitate immediate communication between the President and the Secretary of Defense.","topics":["Melvin R. Laird","Communication management","National security","Defense policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:33:00.960Z"},"topicSlugs":["melvin-r-laird","communication-management","national-security","defense-policy"],"audioDurationSec":8,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-015.mp3","bytes":181811,"durationSec":7.51,"bitrate":193627,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}