{"conversationCode":"023-038","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-038","startDateTime":"1972-04-19T20:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-19T21:41:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1972","startTime":"3:27 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1972","endTime":"4:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:27 pm and 4:41 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-38\n\nDate: April 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:27-4:41 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 713-1A]\n\n     Henry A. Kissinger\n          -Request for a call to Patrick J. Buchanan","filename":["023-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"023-037","nextCode":"023-039","transcript":[{"start":4.42,"end":7.37,"text":"Get Buchanan on the phone for Mr. Kissinger, please."},{"start":7.8,"end":8.1,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs the White House operator to connect Patrick J. Buchanan with Henry Kissinger. This administrative request facilitates direct communication between the National Security Advisor and the speechwriter to coordinate specific policy or messaging efforts. No further discussion occurs during this brief exchange.","topics":["Patrick J. Buchanan","Henry A. Kissinger","Communication coordination","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:35:07.423Z"},"topicSlugs":["patrick-j-buchanan","henry-a-kissinger","communication-coordination","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-038.mp3","bytes":213785,"durationSec":8.85,"bitrate":193269,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}