{"conversationCode":"023-048","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":48,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-048","startDateTime":"1972-04-20T16:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-20T16:52:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1972","startTime":"11:48 AM","endDate":"20-Apr-1972","endTime":"11:52 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 11:48 am to 11:52 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-048 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-48\n\nDate: April 20, 1972\nTime: 11:48-11:52 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 714-11A]\n\nThe President conferred with John D. Ehrlichman at an unknown time during the conversation.\n\n[End of conferral]\n\n     Mrs. Nixon's schedule\n          -Pandas\n               -Picture taking\n               -Antics\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/21/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[023-048-w001]\n[Duration: 3m 8s]\n\n       The President's schedule\n              -Camp David visit with Tricia Nixon Cox on April 20, 1972\n\n       Tricia Nixon Cox's schedule\n               -Visit to Camp David with President\n               -Return from Camp David April 21, 1972\n               -Upcoming trip to Chicago April 22, 1972\n\n       Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule\n             -Inability to visit Camp David until April 21, 1972\n\n       Julie Nixon Eisenhower's schedule\n               -Arrival at Camp David April 21, 1972\n\f       The President's schedule\n              -Leaving for Camp David with Tricia Nixon Cox\n                      -After reception for American Society of Newspaper Editors\n                              -Timing\n              -Dinner plans\n                      -Camp David\n                      -White House\n                              -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n                      -Decision of Tricia Nixon Cox\n                      -Reception\n                              -Timing\n                      -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n                              -General dinner preferences\n\n       Tricia Nixon Cox's schedule\n               -Visit to Camp David\n                       -Return from Camp David April 21, 1972\n\n       Courier's schedule\n              -Twice-daily visits to Camp David\n\n       Tricia Nixon Cox’s schedule\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["023-048.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Ehrlichman, John D.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"023-047","nextCode":"023-049","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.31,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.29,"end":2.88,"text":"Hi."},{"start":2.9,"end":4.58,"text":"Just checking to see how the panda thing went."},{"start":4.6,"end":8.78,"text":"I've been in a meeting and so I... Oh, they were just darling."},{"start":8.86,"end":11.63,"text":"Everybody raved about them."},{"start":12.17,"end":12.83,"text":"How did it work?"},{"start":12.87,"end":14.21,"text":"Were you able to get up to them?"},{"start":14.23,"end":16.01,"text":"Do you cut them or things like that?"},{"start":16.03,"end":17.05,"text":"Or they don't allow that?"},{"start":17.19,"end":20.32,"text":"No, they're glass cage."},{"start":20.3,"end":22.52,"text":"But did they get a good picture of it, I hope?"},{"start":22.58,"end":24.48,"text":"Well, there were an awfully lot of people there."},{"start":25.31,"end":26.45,"text":"Boy, it was well covered."},{"start":26.89,"end":27.49,"text":"Good, good."},{"start":27.59,"end":30.53,"text":"But a lot of interest in how the people seemed to enjoy it."},{"start":30.57,"end":34.96,"text":"I just, they got a good, I bet even the press was pleased."},{"start":35.24,"end":36.82,"text":"Yeah, I think so."},{"start":36.84,"end":37.5,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":37.56,"end":41.33,"text":"They all, they're comic little things, you know."},{"start":41.47,"end":42.89,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":43.11,"end":43.71,"text":"Do they really?"},{"start":44.17,"end":45.74,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":45.78,"end":46.78,"text":"They had a..."},{"start":47.16,"end":63.21,"text":"uh structure inside the cage sort of wood you know and one of them climbed up there and sat up there and chewed his toast he had cinnamon toast it was a screen i hope they got it but there were so many i'm just not sure how well oh well they'll come back and get them and i'll have to be great"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, First Lady Pat Nixon, and John Ehrlichman discussed the successful public reception of the giant pandas recently gifted to the United States. Mrs. Nixon provided details regarding the pandas' popular behavior and the extensive media coverage of the event. The conversation also touched upon logistical scheduling for the Nixon family's upcoming visits to Camp David.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Giant Pandas","Media coverage","Camp David","White House schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:36:02.536Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","giant-pandas","media-coverage","camp-david","white-house-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":252,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-048.mp3","bytes":6043061,"durationSec":251.73,"bitrate":192049,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-048.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-048","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-048","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}