Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 023-052
Date: Thursday, April 20, 1972 at 2:46 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-052

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[0:00] Hello.
[0:02] Hi.
[0:02] Hi, Ron.
[0:03] How about Hope?
[0:04] Did you work it out?
[0:05] 415.
[0:05] Fine.
[0:06] He's delighted.
[0:07] He doesn't expect more than two or three minutes.
[0:09] Oh, no, no.
[0:09] I'll spend 15 minutes with him.
[0:12] Fine.
[0:13] What I want is Ollie there to take a picture inside.
[0:17] You know, we've had one before, but then I want Ollie to walk out with us and take some out in the rose garden.
[0:21] Oh, that'd be great.
[0:22] Tell him that I'd like to, then we'll make up a little album for him.
[0:25] Good.
[0:25] Don't you think that
[0:26] That's a good idea.
[0:27] He'd really appreciate that.
[0:28] For the photographer's thing, because the pictures outside would be extremely good.
[0:31] Does he have anybody with him?
[0:34] Bob does.
[0:35] He just sat down alone.
[0:37] We took the caucus on, and it's moving.
[0:40] Oh, that's good.
[0:41] Particularly the line, words and resolutions are very inadequate.
[0:45] You know, inadequate weapons stopping a brutal armed aggression.
[0:49] That's playing.
[0:50] Good.
[0:52] What was the vote in the caucus?
[0:54] 135 to 66.
[0:55] It was a very low vote.
[0:58] What I meant is they didn't have many members there, did they?
[1:02] They must have 60 absentees, that's what I mean.
[1:06] At least that, right.
[1:07] Yeah.
[1:09] The same percentages they've had all the time.
[1:12] Well, and it's the same percentage as the vote on the floor.
[1:15] That's what I mean.
[1:16] Right.
[1:16] Which was ranging anywhere.
[1:18] I think the high they ever had was 137 on the floor vote.
[1:23] And I pointed that out, too.
[1:25] And the U.P.I.,
[1:28] early lead mentioned that it was a lopsided boat and they took that out later leads after this had been pointed out to them.
[1:36] Well, hell, it's no more lopsided than it's ever been.
[1:39] Well, of course, it'll be hard for you to get that across, I guess, but it's really... Well, I think it was pretty well accepted out there when the past voting, you know, the floor figures were given to them, which I did.
[1:51] And I also referred to it as a political caucus.
[1:55] Partisan.
[1:55] Partisan caucus.
[1:57] Democratic political caucus.
[1:59] Yeah.
[1:59] Okay.
[1:59] So I think we're in good shape.
[2:01] How about...
[2:03] Some Republicans ought to get up and praise the loyal Democrats.
[2:07] Well, Colson has a lot of things working, he told me, in terms of Hill reaction.
[2:12] Good, good.
[2:13] Okay, sir.
[2:13] All right.