{"conversationCode":"023-065","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-065","startDateTime":"1972-04-25T18:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-25T18:46:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1972","startTime":"1:45 PM","endDate":"25-Apr-1972","endTime":"1:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 1:45 pm to 1:46 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-065 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-65\n\nDate: April 25, 1972\nTime: 1:45-1:46 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 332-46]\n\n     Colson's location\n\n     The President's meeting with Colson\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/21/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[023-065-w001]\n[Duration: 5s]\n\n       The President's schedule\n              -Nap\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["023-065.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"023-064","nextCode":"023-066","transcript":[{"start":1.33,"end":1.93,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.97,"end":2.96,"text":"Mr. Coulson, sir."},{"start":2.98,"end":3.84,"text":"Yes, sir, Mr. President."},{"start":4.16,"end":4.54,"text":"Where are you?"},{"start":5.02,"end":9.86,"text":"I'm just finished lunch, and I'm sitting in an office just calling you back."},{"start":9.88,"end":10.36,"text":"Do you want me in?"},{"start":12.51,"end":13.75,"text":"Yeah, come over for a minute."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated this brief telephone call to determine Charles Colson's current location and availability. Upon confirming Colson’s proximity, the President requested that he come to the White House for a short meeting. The primary purpose of the contact was to facilitate this immediate, informal consultation between the two men.","topics":["White House scheduling","Charles Colson","Presidential meetings","administration workflow"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:37:37.977Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-scheduling","charles-colson","presidential-meetings","administration-workflow"],"audioDurationSec":24,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-065.mp3","bytes":573648,"durationSec":23.84,"bitrate":192505,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-065.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-065","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-065","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}