{"conversationCode":"023-094","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":94,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-094","startDateTime":"1972-04-27T01:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-27T01:25:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Apr-1972","startTime":"8:20 PM","endDate":"26-Apr-1972","endTime":"8:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On April 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 8:20 pm to 8:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-094 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-94\n\nDate: April 26, 1972\nTime: 8:20-8:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 333-44]\n\n     The President's call\n\n     US-Soviet relations\n         -Gerard C. Smith\n               -Thomas H. Moorer\n\n     Kissinger's briefing","filename":["023-094.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"023-093","nextCode":"023-095","transcript":[{"start":0.71,"end":11.73,"text":"Mr. President, I didn't get your message because I went right into the meeting."},{"start":11.75,"end":13.43,"text":"No, I told it was not necessary."},{"start":13.45,"end":14.21,"text":"I'll see you on the plane."},{"start":14.23,"end":18.58,"text":"I had an idea about Smith, but we can handle it then."},{"start":18.62,"end":20.68,"text":"Believe me, Mr. President, this is no problem."},{"start":20.7,"end":22.15,"text":"I think we should stick more on him."},{"start":22.17,"end":23.77,"text":"Oh, I know, but I have an idea."},{"start":23.83,"end":24.25,"text":"It's petty vanity."},{"start":24.72,"end":25.74,"text":"Sure, I understand."},{"start":27.13,"end":28.27,"text":"But you go ahead with your briefing."},{"start":28.31,"end":29.85,"text":"You've got more important things on your mind."},{"start":29.87,"end":31.76,"text":"Did you get along all right with the staff?"},{"start":32.32,"end":32.64,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":32.86,"end":33.16,"text":"Fine."},{"start":34.89,"end":37.44,"text":"Now you're doing the TV."},{"start":37.62,"end":37.98,"text":"Good luck."},{"start":38.24,"end":38.74,"text":"Give them hell."},{"start":39.22,"end":39.62,"text":"Good luck."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger spoke briefly to coordinate upcoming travel plans and discuss diplomatic strategy regarding Gerard C. Smith and ongoing US-Soviet relations. Kissinger updated the President on his staff interactions and upcoming media responsibilities. The President encouraged Kissinger to remain firm in his upcoming public appearances while deferring further tactical discussions until their next meeting.","topics":["US-Soviet relations","Gerard C. Smith","Diplomatic strategy","Media relations","Foreign policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:40:17.260Z"},"topicSlugs":["us-soviet-relations","gerard-c-smith","diplomatic-strategy","media-relations","foreign-policy"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-094.mp3","bytes":980531,"durationSec":40.78,"bitrate":192348,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.839Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-094.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-094","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-094","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}