{"conversationCode":"023-122","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":122,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-122","startDateTime":"1972-05-02T22:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-02T22:07:00.000Z","startDate":"2-May-1972","startTime":"6:06 PM","endDate":"2-May-1972","endTime":"6:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Gandy, Helen;","description":"On May 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Helen Gandy talked on the telephone from 6:06 pm to 6:07 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-122 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-122\n\nDate: May 2, 1972\nTime: 6:06-6:07 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Helen Gandy.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 334-36K]\n\f     J. Edgar Hoover\n           -Respect for Gandy\n                -The President's sympathy\n\n     Gandy","filename":["023-122.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Gandy, Helen"],"prevCode":"023-121","nextCode":"023-123","transcript":[{"start":1.16,"end":1.6,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.72,"end":3.61,"text":"Ms. Gandy is on the line, Mr. President."},{"start":3.63,"end":4.03,"text":"Yes, Mr. President."},{"start":4.94,"end":11.44,"text":"Well, Ms. Gandy, I know that how very, very much the director..."},{"start":12.03,"end":18.34,"text":"had his confidence and respect in you over these years, and Mrs. Nixon and I wanted to extend our sympathy to you."},{"start":18.36,"end":30.89,"text":"As you know, I considered him and we all, all of our family, one of our dearest and closest friends in and out of office, and I know how you must have felt about him, and I just wanted you to know that we were thinking of you today."},{"start":31.29,"end":34.06,"text":"I know how much he thought of you, Mr. President."},{"start":34.08,"end":38.72,"text":"Yes, and he was a great man, but there's never a great man without a great secretary."},{"start":39.16,"end":40.16,"text":"Well, thank you so much."},{"start":40.18,"end":40.91,"text":"And that's you."},{"start":41.58,"end":42.54,"text":"Goodbye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Helen Gandy to offer his personal condolences following the recent death of J. Edgar Hoover. The President emphasized the deep respect and close friendship he and his family held for the late FBI Director. During the brief exchange, Nixon also acknowledged Gandy's indispensable role as Hoover's longtime secretary, affirming the high regard in which the Director held her.","topics":["J. Edgar Hoover","Helen Gandy","Condolences","FBI","Presidential Communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:42:51.025Z"},"topicSlugs":["j-edgar-hoover","helen-gandy","condolences","fbi","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":43,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-122.mp3","bytes":1038209,"durationSec":43.19,"bitrate":192306,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-122.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-122","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-122","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}