{"conversationCode":"023-145","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":145,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-145","startDateTime":"1972-05-03T19:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-03T19:56:00.000Z","startDate":"3-May-1972","startTime":"3:56 PM","endDate":"3-May-1972","endTime":"3:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:56 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-145 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-145\n\nDate: May 3, 1972\nTime: 3:56 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 335-23B]\n\n     Request for a call to Robert A. Taft, Jr.\n         -Taft's location\n                -Hugh Scott\n         -Return call\n         -Message\n                -Charles W. Colson's call","filename":["023-145.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"023-144","nextCode":"023-146","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":4.9,"text":"Mr. President, I find Senator Tapps in Senator Scott's office in a meeting."},{"start":4.94,"end":5.92,"text":"Should I get him there?"},{"start":8.56,"end":10.41,"text":"No, no, that's not necessary."},{"start":10.77,"end":12.67,"text":"Does sleep work when he gets back to his office?"},{"start":12.89,"end":15.94,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, I'm going to be out."},{"start":16.4,"end":20.91,"text":"I'll have to get in touch with him in another way later."},{"start":20.93,"end":22.83,"text":"I'll be gone for a couple of hours, but..."},{"start":23.59,"end":34.95,"text":"Just tell his secretary that since I'll be gone, I want to get some information that Mr. Colson will be calling him as soon as he's free."},{"start":35.25,"end":37.51,"text":"If he could give Mr. Colson a call, I would appreciate it."},{"start":37.71,"end":38.27,"text":"All right."},{"start":38.35,"end":39.81,"text":"Because he can pass this stuff to me."},{"start":39.84,"end":40.44,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":40.56,"end":41.06,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to coordinate a message for Senator Robert A. Taft, Jr. after failing to reach him during a meeting in Senator Hugh Scott's office. Nixon directed the operator to inform Taft’s secretary that Charles W. Colson would contact the senator later to relay sensitive information. This arrangement was intended to facilitate the transfer of materials through Colson while the President was away from his office.","topics":["Robert A. Taft, Jr.","Charles W. Colson","White House operations","communication coordination","Hugh Scott"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:44:55.346Z"},"topicSlugs":["robert-a-taft-jr","charles-w-colson","white-house-operations","communication-coordination","hugh-scott"],"audioDurationSec":42,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-145.mp3","bytes":1017520,"durationSec":42.32,"bitrate":192348,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.839Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-145.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-145","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-145","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}