{"conversationCode":"023-157","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":157,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-157","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T19:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T19:44:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"3:04 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"3:44 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator;","description":"On May 4, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:04 pm and 3:44 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-157 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-157\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:04 and 3:44 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nThe White House operator talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 334-44E]\n\n     [David] Kenneth Rush\n          -Location\n\n     Raymond B. Furlong","filename":["023-157.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"023-156","nextCode":"023-158","transcript":[{"start":1.06,"end":5.49,"text":"Dr. Kissinger, it seems as if they're all attending that same ceremony."},{"start":5.59,"end":6.72,"text":"She said that..."},{"start":6.82,"end":8.34,"text":"Okay, leave word that I called."},{"start":9.16,"end":12.39,"text":"General Furlong said... No, I do not wish to talk to her."},{"start":12.41,"end":13.86,"text":"Leave word for him."},{"start":13.94,"end":15,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger consulted with the White House operator to coordinate communication with key officials, including Kenneth Rush and General Raymond B. Furlong. The discussion centered on locating these individuals, who were gathered at a ceremony, to facilitate urgent contact. Kissinger ultimately decided to leave messages for the parties rather than wait for a direct connection.","topics":["Communication coordination","Kenneth Rush","Raymond B. Furlong","Logistics","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:45:59.920Z"},"topicSlugs":["communication-coordination","kenneth-rush","raymond-b-furlong","logistics","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-157.mp3","bytes":398105,"durationSec":16.52,"bitrate":192786,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-157.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-157","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/023/conversation-023-157","catalogNaId":417193599,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417193599","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}