{"conversationCode":"023-158","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":158,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-158","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T19:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T21:15:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"5:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.);","description":"On May 4, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Adm. Thomas H. Moorer talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-158 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-158\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:55 and 5:15 pm\nLocation: Old Executive Office Building\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator.\n\f[See also Conversation No. 334-44G]\n\n     Request for a call to Thomas H. Moorer\n\nKissinger conferred with the President at an unknown time.\n\n[See Conversation No. 334-44G]\n\n[End of conferral]\n\nKissinger talked with Moorer.\n\n     Moorer's meeting with Kissinger\n         -Confidentiality\n               -Moorer's meeting with unknown Taiwan, Republic of China admiral","filename":["023-158.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.)","Kissinger, Henry A.","White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.)"],"prevCode":"023-157","nextCode":"023-159","transcript":[{"start":0.1,"end":4.54,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":4.8,"end":8.55,"text":"Get me Admiral Moore and put Admiral... You want him over here?"},{"start":13.21,"end":21.14,"text":"There you are."},{"start":22.19,"end":22.73,"text":"Tom?"},{"start":23.09,"end":23.47,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":24.23,"end":28.36,"text":"Can you come right over to my office without telling anybody?"},{"start":29.84,"end":33.84,"text":"Sure, in about ten minutes or so."},{"start":34.76,"end":35.44,"text":"Can you be..."},{"start":35.46,"end":36.62,"text":"I've got a Chinese admiral here."},{"start":36.66,"end":37.77,"text":"As soon as I can get him out, I will."},{"start":38.45,"end":41.51,"text":"Well, get rid of him as fast as you possibly can, will you?"},{"start":41.53,"end":41.87,"text":"All right."},{"start":42.33,"end":46.5,"text":"Because the president wants to talk to you, but don't tell anyone you are coming over."},{"start":46.7,"end":47.02,"text":"Okay."},{"start":47.16,"end":47.54,"text":"Good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger contacts Admiral Thomas H. Moorer to coordinate a high-priority, clandestine meeting with President Nixon. Kissinger instructs Moorer to expedite the departure of a visiting Taiwanese admiral to ensure immediate availability for the President. The conversation emphasizes strict operational security, specifically warning Moorer not to disclose his movements to anyone.","topics":["Operational Security","Vietnam War","Taiwan","Henry Kissinger","Thomas H. Moorer","Richard M. Nixon"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:46:05.602Z"},"topicSlugs":["operational-security","vietnam-war","taiwan","henry-kissinger","thomas-h-moorer","richard-m-nixon"],"audioDurationSec":51,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-158.mp3","bytes":1219395,"durationSec":50.75,"bitrate":192220,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.521Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-158.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-158","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-158","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}