{"conversationCode":"023-159","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":159,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-159","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T19:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T21:15:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"5:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Butterfield, Alexander P.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.;","description":"On May 4, 1972, Alexander P. Butterfield, Henry A. Kissinger, President Richard M. Nixon, and John B. Connally talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-159 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-159\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:55 and 5:15 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nAlexander P. Butterfield talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 334-44H]\n\nThe President conferred with John B. Connally during the conversation.\n\n[See Conversation No. 334-44H]\n\n[End of conferral]\n\n     Call from [David] Kenneth Rush","filename":["023-159.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Butterfield, Alexander P.","Kissinger, Henry A.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Connally, John B."],"prevCode":"023-158","nextCode":"023-160","transcript":[{"start":0.88,"end":1.38,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.92,"end":2.22,"text":"Henry?"},{"start":2.72,"end":2.98,"text":"Yes."},{"start":3.54,"end":4.71,"text":"I've got Rush on the line."},{"start":4.73,"end":6.89,"text":"Do you want to speak to him there in the President's office?"},{"start":7.31,"end":8.28,"text":"Not right this minute."},{"start":8.46,"end":8.98,"text":"Oh, okay."},{"start":9.14,"end":10.04,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander P. Butterfield facilitated a telephone connection between Henry Kissinger and President Nixon, who was consulting with John B. Connally. The group discussed the logistics of handling an incoming call from Deputy Secretary of State Kenneth Rush. The President ultimately decided to defer speaking with Rush until a later time.","topics":["Kenneth Rush","Foreign Policy","White House Communications","John B. Connally","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:46:10.925Z"},"topicSlugs":["kenneth-rush","foreign-policy","white-house-communications","john-b-connally","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-159.mp3","bytes":268955,"durationSec":11.15,"bitrate":192983,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.522Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-159.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-159","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-159","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}