{"conversationCode":"023-161","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":161,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-161","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T19:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T21:15:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"5:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator;","description":"On May 4, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-161 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-161\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:55 and 5:15 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 334-44J]\n\n     Thomas H. Moorer\n         -Location","filename":["023-161.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"023-160","nextCode":"023-162","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.54,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.56,"end":4.75,"text":"Admiral Moore is on his way over to the White House, left about 10 minutes to go."},{"start":4.77,"end":5.46,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":5.82,"end":6.38,"text":"Thanks."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger received a status update from the White House operator regarding the transit of Admiral Thomas H. Moorer. The call served to coordinate the logistics of the Admiral's arrival at the White House for a scheduled meeting. This brief exchange ensured that Kissinger was informed of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff's proximity to the complex.","topics":["Thomas H. Moorer","Logistics","Military leadership","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:46:21.645Z"},"topicSlugs":["thomas-h-moorer","logistics","military-leadership","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":7,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-161.mp3","bytes":174288,"durationSec":7.19,"bitrate":193942,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-161.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-161","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-161","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}