{"conversationCode":"023-162","tapeNumber":23,"conversationNumber":162,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-023-162","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T19:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T21:25:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"5:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; White House operator; Hartley, Muriel;","description":"On May 4, 1972, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., White House operator, and Muriel Hartley talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-162 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 23-162\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:55 and 5:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nAlexander M. Haig, Jr. talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for a call to his office\n\nHaig talked with Murial Hartley at an unknown time.\n\n     Laura [Surname unknown]\n\n     Richard Campbell\n\n     Helicopter\n          -Preparation for Henry A. Kissinger\n                -Problems\n                     -Weather\n                -Time","filename":["023-162.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","White House operator","Hartley, Muriel"],"prevCode":"023-161","nextCode":"023-163","transcript":[{"start":0.22,"end":7.55,"text":"General Haig, get my office, please."},{"start":7.57,"end":15.62,"text":"Thanks, sir."},{"start":15.63,"end":16.54,"text":"Mr. Kissinger's office."},{"start":16.86,"end":17.32,"text":"Yeah, Laura?"},{"start":17.8,"end":18.34,"text":"Muriel."},{"start":18.36,"end":23.5,"text":"Muriel, tell Dick Camel to get that helicopter put on the Pentagon pad for Henry right away."},{"start":24,"end":24.57,"text":"Well, I'm not sure."},{"start":24.59,"end":26.37,"text":"You know, they told us they might not be able to."},{"start":26.53,"end":26.91,"text":"Why?"},{"start":27.03,"end":29.69,"text":"If it didn't take off by 510 because of the shower activity."},{"start":29.71,"end":29.85,"text":"Get it."},{"start":30.34,"end":32.18,"text":"What do you mean, the shower activity?"},{"start":32.65,"end":33.61,"text":"That's all I know."},{"start":34.59,"end":35.11,"text":"Get it done."},{"start":36.16,"end":37.34,"text":"Get it put on there for what time?"},{"start":37.52,"end":38.02,"text":"Right now."},{"start":38.47,"end":39.35,"text":"All right."},{"start":39.39,"end":39.49,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander M. Haig, Jr. contacts staff to coordinate urgent helicopter transport for Henry A. Kissinger. Despite reports of potential delays due to inclement weather and shower activity, Haig directs Muriel Hartley to secure the aircraft at the Pentagon pad immediately. The exchange highlights the logistical pressure and command style involved in managing Kissinger's time-sensitive travel arrangements.","topics":["Alexander M. Haig, Jr.","Henry A. Kissinger","Logistics","Helicopter transport","Weather delays"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:46:27.310Z"},"topicSlugs":["alexander-m-haig-jr","henry-a-kissinger","logistics","helicopter-transport","weather-delays"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"023-162.mp3","bytes":983666,"durationSec":40.91,"bitrate":192360,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/023-162.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-162","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/23/conversation-023-162","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}