{"conversationCode":"024-021","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-021","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:06:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"10:04 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"10:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 10:04 pm to 10:06 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-21\n\nDate: May 8, 1972\nTime: 10:04 pm - 10:06 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 10:04 and an unknown time before\n10:06 pm.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 336-69E]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 1m 33s ]\n\nTHE PRESIDENT TALKED WITH THELMA C. (“PAT”) NIXON BETWEEN AN\nUNKNOWN TIME AFTER 10:04 AND 10:06 PM.\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["024-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:20:35","tapeEnd":"00:22:13","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"024-020","nextCode":"024-022","transcript":[{"start":0.77,"end":1.26,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.6,"end":2.73,"text":"Julie on the line, Mr. President."},{"start":3.16,"end":3.46,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":98.31,"end":98.47,"text":"you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon held brief personal telephone conversations with his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, and his wife, Pat Nixon. These calls served as informal family check-ins during the evening hours at the White House. No official policy matters or significant administrative decisions were discussed during these private exchanges.","topics":["Family","Personal communication","White House social life"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:49:03.113Z"},"topicSlugs":["family","personal-communication","white-house-social-life"],"audioDurationSec":98,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-021.mp3","bytes":2363558,"durationSec":98.41,"bitrate":192148,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.839Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}