{"conversationCode":"024-025","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-025","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:42:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"10:23 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"10:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:23 pm and 10:42 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-25\n\nDate: May 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:23 pm and 10:42 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 336-69I]\n\n     Request for a call to [David] Kenneth Rush","filename":["024-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:30:12","tapeEnd":"00:30:22","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"024-024","nextCode":"024-026","transcript":[{"start":1.92,"end":3.79,"text":"Could you get me Mr."},{"start":3.89,"end":6.15,"text":"Rush, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, please?"},{"start":6.73,"end":6.89,"text":"Yes, Mr."},{"start":6.91,"end":7.01,"text":"Rush."},{"start":7.03,"end":8.08,"text":"Kenneth Rush."},{"start":8.1,"end":8.52,"text":"All right, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an urgent call to Deputy Secretary of Defense Kenneth Rush. The primary purpose of this interaction was to facilitate direct communication with high-level defense leadership. No further discussion occurred, as the exchange was limited to the President’s request for the operator to connect him with Rush.","topics":["Kenneth Rush","Department of Defense","Communications","Executive operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:49:25.495Z"},"topicSlugs":["kenneth-rush","department-of-defense","communication","executive-operations"],"audioDurationSec":10,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-025.mp3","bytes":245759,"durationSec":10.16,"bitrate":193453,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.839Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/024/conversation-024-025","catalogNaId":646314366,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/646314366","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}