{"conversationCode":"024-028","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-028","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:48:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"10:47 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"10:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Meany, George;","description":"On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and George Meany talked on the telephone from 10:47 pm to 10:48 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-28\nDate: May 8, 1972\nTime: 10:47 pm - 10:48 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with George Meany.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 336-69O]\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Blockade\n               -The President's decision\n                    -Reasons\n                    -Meany's support\n                          -Statement","filename":["024-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:33:31","tapeEnd":"00:34:12","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Meany, George"],"prevCode":"024-027","nextCode":"024-029","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":1.68,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":2.9,"end":4.54,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":5.56,"end":15.27,"text":"George, I just wanted to say that, you know, sometimes we have our differences, but I just want you to know that I took this decision because I knew we just couldn't do anything else."},{"start":15.41,"end":22.32,"text":"And if you can support it, I'll appreciate it."},{"start":22.36,"end":24.28,"text":"If you can't, I understand."},{"start":24.52,"end":27.22,"text":"You know, by God, we just can't let these people run over us."},{"start":27.32,"end":29.07,"text":"I think I can support it in some way."},{"start":29.12,"end":30.49,"text":"I'll get something out in the morning."},{"start":31.11,"end":32.51,"text":"I sure appreciate it."},{"start":32.53,"end":36.86,"text":"And let me say that there'll be a time when we'll all be together again, I hope."},{"start":37.4,"end":38.02,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":38.24,"end":38.44,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":38.46,"end":38.66,"text":"All right."},{"start":38.68,"end":39.8,"text":"Good to talk to you, George."},{"start":39.83,"end":40.05,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon reached out to AFL-CIO President George Meany to seek labor's endorsement for his recently announced decision to implement a naval blockade of North Vietnam. Nixon emphasized the necessity of the action to prevent foreign aggression, and Meany signaled his willingness to back the administration's policy. The brief exchange concluded with Meany promising to issue a supportive public statement the following morning.","topics":["Vietnam War","Naval blockade","Labor unions","George Meany","Foreign policy","Political support"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:49:41.821Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","naval-blockade","labor-unions","george-meany","foreign-policy","political-support"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-028.mp3","bytes":996204,"durationSec":41.43,"bitrate":192345,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.841Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}