{"conversationCode":"024-035","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-035","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T03:22:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"10:52 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"11:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Colson, Charles W.; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On May 8, 1972, Charles W. Colson and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:52 pm and 11:22 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 336-69V]\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Blockade\n               -The President's speech\n                    -George Meany's statement\n                          -Support for the President\n                          -Jay Lovestone's conversation with Colson\n                          -The President's previous Request for a call to Meany\n                          -Statement in support of the President\n                                -Distribution","filename":["024-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:45:57","tapeEnd":"00:46:50","participantsList":["Colson, Charles W.","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"024-034","nextCode":"024-036","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":4.92,"text":"Mr. Holderman, Mr. Colson's asking for you again."},{"start":4.94,"end":5.64,"text":"Okay."},{"start":5.66,"end":5.86,"text":"All right."},{"start":6.46,"end":6.84,"text":"There you are."},{"start":6.86,"end":7.14,"text":"Yes, Chair."},{"start":7.56,"end":8.02,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":8.1,"end":8.92,"text":"I just thought there was one thing."},{"start":8.94,"end":10.68,"text":"I don't know whether you've gotten it yet that you ought to have."},{"start":10.8,"end":15.17,"text":"Jay Lovestone just called me, and he has put out a very strong statement."},{"start":15.19,"end":15.81,"text":"He's put it out?"},{"start":15.91,"end":16.19,"text":"Yes."},{"start":16.35,"end":17.61,"text":"Full support for the president."},{"start":17.67,"end":20,"text":"Call upon the American people to back him all the way."},{"start":20.2,"end":21.24,"text":"He's doing the right thing."},{"start":22.12,"end":23.04,"text":"Jay just read it to me over the phone."},{"start":23.06,"end":23.62,"text":"I couldn't believe it."},{"start":24.5,"end":25.7,"text":"And he said he's put it out right now."},{"start":25.72,"end":27.09,"text":"They just phoned it to AP and UP."},{"start":27.35,"end":28.39,"text":"He just called him."},{"start":28.83,"end":29.05,"text":"Did he?"},{"start":29.86,"end":30.34,"text":"Did he know that?"},{"start":31.1,"end":34.04,"text":"He said, well, I may be able to say something that will help you tomorrow."},{"start":34.06,"end":35.36,"text":"How long ago did he call him?"},{"start":35.38,"end":36.24,"text":"About 15 minutes."},{"start":36.7,"end":37.27,"text":"That's too long."},{"start":37.67,"end":38.43,"text":"Jay told me they posted."},{"start":38.45,"end":39.75,"text":"He must have just hung up and done it."},{"start":40.65,"end":43.21,"text":"That's a hell of a statement from what he just read to me."},{"start":43.23,"end":43.77,"text":"Good."},{"start":43.79,"end":44.91,"text":"Well, I thought you'd like to know."},{"start":45.28,"end":45.48,"text":"Great."},{"start":45.84,"end":47.8,"text":"That's a source we haven't heard from in quite a while."},{"start":47.88,"end":48.06,"text":"Right."},{"start":48.56,"end":49.82,"text":"We may get in a few more of those."},{"start":50.08,"end":50.18,"text":"Good."},{"start":50.5,"end":50.84,"text":"Okay."},{"start":50.86,"end":51.22,"text":"Okay."},{"start":51.24,"end":51.6,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Charles W. Colson informs H. R. Haldeman that Jay Lovestone has issued a strong public statement supporting the President's recent decision to blockade Vietnam. The pair discusses the immediate distribution of this statement to wire services and its potential impact as a demonstration of labor support. This conversation highlights efforts by the administration to secure and publicize external endorsements following the President's Vietnam policy announcement.","topics":["Vietnam War","Blockade","Labor movement","Public relations","Jay Lovestone","George Meany"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:50:19.679Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","blockade","labor-movement","public-relations","jay-lovestone","george-meany"],"audioDurationSec":53,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-035.mp3","bytes":1277700,"durationSec":53.16,"bitrate":192278,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}