{"conversationCode":"024-036","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-036","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T02:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T03:22:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"10:52 PM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"11:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Higby, Lawrence M.; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On May 8, 1972, Lawrence M. Higby and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:52 pm and 11:22 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-036 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-36\n\nDate: May 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:52 pm and 11:22 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nLawrence M. Higby talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 336-69W]\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Blockade\n               -The President's speech\n                    -George G. Aiken's conversation with Clark MacGregor\n                          -Support for the President\n                                -Soviets\n                          -Responsibility\n                                -Evacuation implications\n                                     -Bangladesh","filename":["024-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:46:50","tapeEnd":"00:47:13","participantsList":["Higby, Lawrence M.","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"024-035","nextCode":"024-037","transcript":[{"start":1.06,"end":2.08,"text":"Yep."},{"start":2.1,"end":2.44,"text":"Mr. Haldeman?"},{"start":2.46,"end":2.64,"text":"Yes."},{"start":2.86,"end":4.31,"text":"Mr. Higby wants you."},{"start":5.87,"end":6.07,"text":"All right."},{"start":6.39,"end":7.69,"text":"Hi, McGregor talked to Aiken."},{"start":7.73,"end":8.73,"text":"He's firmly on board."},{"start":9.04,"end":11,"text":"He's put out a very strong supportive statement."},{"start":11.46,"end":11.74,"text":"Really?"},{"start":12.34,"end":12.48,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":12.5,"end":15.43,"text":"He says it puts the blame exactly where it belongs on the Russians."},{"start":15.79,"end":20.36,"text":"If the president were to evacuate, it would result in a greater bloodbath in Bangladesh."},{"start":20.38,"end":21.18,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":21.2,"end":21.3,"text":"Okay?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Lawrence M. Higby briefs H. R. Haldeman on Senator George Aiken’s strong public support for President Nixon’s decision to blockade Vietnam. Aiken specifically credits the President for holding the Soviet Union responsible for the conflict while warning that a premature American withdrawal would lead to a humanitarian catastrophe similar to the events in Bangladesh. This feedback reinforces the administration's strategic messaging regarding the necessity and geopolitical implications of the blockade.","topics":["Vietnam War","George Aiken","Blockade","Soviet Union","Foreign Policy","Public Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:50:25.131Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","george-aiken","blockade","soviet-union","foreign-policy","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":23,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-036.mp3","bytes":547943,"durationSec":22.77,"bitrate":192521,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.839Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-036.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-036","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-036","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}