{"conversationCode":"024-046","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":46,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-046","startDateTime":"1972-05-09T15:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-09T15:41:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1972","startTime":"11:40 AM","endDate":"9-May-1972","endTime":"11:41 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buchanan, Patrick J.;","description":"On May 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone from 11:40 am to 11:41 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-046 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-46\n\nDate: May 9, 1972\nTime: 11:40 am - 11:41 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Patrick J. Buchanan.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 338-17B]\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Blockade\n               -Support\n                    -Hawks\n               -Impact\n\n                      -Duration","filename":["024-046.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:04:11","tapeEnd":"01:04:40","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Buchanan, Patrick J."],"prevCode":"024-045","nextCode":"024-047","transcript":[{"start":2.65,"end":3.67,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.09,"end":8.89,"text":"Well, if you can get your hawks going now, Buchanan, you really have had it."},{"start":9.27,"end":9.73,"text":"That's right."},{"start":9.76,"end":10.92,"text":"I'd be a weak sister."},{"start":11.38,"end":12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":12.02,"end":13.28,"text":"I've talked to a few of them, sir."},{"start":13.3,"end":14.84,"text":"They're 100% behind you on this thing."},{"start":15.1,"end":15.44,"text":"Good, good."},{"start":15.74,"end":17.9,"text":"We've got a bit of a long haul ahead of us, I think."},{"start":18.08,"end":18.68,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":18.7,"end":21.51,"text":"It's going to take months, but it might not, you know."},{"start":21.55,"end":22.87,"text":"But the main thing is it'll do it."},{"start":23.39,"end":23.65,"text":"Right."},{"start":24.21,"end":25.71,"text":"Just guess, and that's what we want to do."},{"start":26.15,"end":26.47,"text":"Right."},{"start":26.59,"end":27.31,"text":"Keep the heat on them."},{"start":27.55,"end":28.11,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Patrick Buchanan discuss the importance of maintaining public and political support for the newly announced blockade of North Vietnam. Nixon expresses concern about appearing weak and stresses the necessity of mobilizing pro-war \"hawks\" to sustain momentum during the projected months-long operation. Buchanan confirms that key allies remain fully supportive of the administration's strategic posture.","topics":["Vietnam War","Naval blockade","Public opinion","Political strategy","Military policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:51:19.009Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","naval-blockade","public-opinion","political-strategy","military-policy"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-046.mp3","bytes":712201,"durationSec":29.61,"bitrate":192424,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.839Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-046.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-046","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-046","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}