{"conversationCode":"024-070","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":70,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-070","startDateTime":"1972-05-10T20:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-10T20:45:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1972","startTime":"4:25 PM","endDate":"10-May-1972","endTime":"4:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Dobrynin, Anatoliy F.;","description":"On May 10, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and Anatoliy F. Dobrynin talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:25 pm and 4:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-070 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-70\n\nDate: May 10, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:25 pm and 4:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 337-28/339-1B]\n\n     Greetings\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with Soviet Trade Minister\n               -Time\n               -Participants\n               -Subjects\n               -Time\n               -Location\n               -Subjects\n               -Entry to White House\n               -Discussion\n                      -Release","filename":["024-070.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:21:37","tapeEnd":"01:22:50","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Dobrynin, Anatoliy F."],"prevCode":"024-069","nextCode":"024-071","transcript":[{"start":0.99,"end":1.98,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.04,"end":2.62,"text":"Mr. Kissinger?"},{"start":2.66,"end":2.88,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.12,"end":4.22,"text":"Ambassador Dobrynin."},{"start":4.86,"end":6.38,"text":"Anatole?"},{"start":8.59,"end":9.15,"text":"Anatole?"},{"start":9.21,"end":9.81,"text":"Yes."},{"start":10.03,"end":10.91,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":10.94,"end":12.1,"text":"Good."},{"start":12.44,"end":19.15,"text":"The President would be delighted to see your Trade Minister at the"},{"start":19.81,"end":21.29,"text":"10 o'clock tomorrow morning."},{"start":21.31,"end":22.57,"text":"10 o'clock tomorrow morning."},{"start":22.83,"end":23.09,"text":"Right."},{"start":23.39,"end":24.05,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":24.17,"end":25.92,"text":"And of course we expect you to come along."},{"start":26.06,"end":26.9,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":26.92,"end":30.28,"text":"And the subjects will be exactly as you and I discussed."},{"start":30.3,"end":30.9,"text":"Fine."},{"start":30.92,"end":37.67,"text":"So 10 a.m. 10 a.m. at the White House and we'll discuss only commercial matters."},{"start":37.79,"end":45.4,"text":"And we will go out as usual through the... Come in through the front, you know, the way you come in to my office."},{"start":45.62,"end":46.1,"text":"Okay."},{"start":46.27,"end":70.5,"text":"okay through the lobby yes yes through the northwest gate yes okay and I've also mentioned that issue of that principle and I think we can handle it in the way you and I discussed it okay so could I already report it yes okay I think it will be better okay I think you can report it in that sense but let's keep it between us for the time being okay thank you very much thank you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger and Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy Dobrynin coordinated a meeting between President Nixon and the Soviet Trade Minister to address commercial matters. The two officials confirmed the logistics for the upcoming discussion, specifying that Dobrynin would accompany the Minister to the White House. Kissinger also instructed Dobrynin to keep certain discussed principles confidential while permitting them to be reported internally within the Soviet government.","topics":["US-Soviet relations","Trade negotiations","Diplomacy","Henry Kissinger","Anatoliy Dobrynin"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T02:53:29.319Z"},"topicSlugs":["us-soviet-relations","trade-negotiations","diplomacy","henry-kissinger","anatoliy-dobrynin"],"audioDurationSec":73,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-070.mp3","bytes":1748531,"durationSec":72.8,"bitrate":192139,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.841Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-070.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-070","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-070","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}