{"conversationCode":"024-087","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":87,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-087","startDateTime":"1972-05-15T21:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-15T21:30:00.000Z","startDate":"15-May-1972","startTime":"5:24 PM","endDate":"15-May-1972","endTime":"5:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House operator; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Connally, John B.; Rossides, Eugene T.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On May 15, 1972, the White House operator, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, John B. Connally, Eugene T. Rossides, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:24 pm and 5:30 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-087 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-87\n\nDate: May 15, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:24 pm and 5:30 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 724-8D]\n\n     Eugene T. Rossides\n\nJohn B. Connally talked with Rossides at an unknown time.\n\n     Secret Service\n          -Candidate protection\n                -James J. Rowley\n                -Edward M. Kennedy\n                      -Announcement\n                           -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                -Shirley Chisholm\n                      -Request for protection\n                -Other possible requests\n\nConnally conferred with Haldeman and the President at an unknown time.\n\n[See Conversation No. 724-8]\n\n[End of conferral]\n\n     Secret Service\n          -Candidate protection\n                -Wilbur D. Mills\n                -John M. Ashbrook\n                -Chisholm\n                -Samuel W. Yorty\n                -Chisholm\n                -Kennedy\n                -Chisholm\n\n     George C. Wallace\n         -Assassination attempt\n               -Information\n                     -Reports","filename":["024-087.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:34:53","tapeEnd":"01:36:52","participantsList":["White House operator","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Connally, John B.","Rossides, Eugene T.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"024-086","nextCode":"024-088","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.44,"text":"Oh, yes, sir."},{"start":2.48,"end":4.02,"text":"Mr. OCD is on the line."},{"start":4.04,"end":11.07,"text":"Just a minute, please."},{"start":11.09,"end":12.19,"text":"Jean."},{"start":12.21,"end":13.1,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":13.38,"end":17.39,"text":"Get a hold of Chief Riley and let's get a detail on Kennedy tonight."},{"start":18.51,"end":25.8,"text":"And I'm going to announce it over here, I think, or have Ron... Shirley Chisholm's office called a few minutes ago and requesting protection."},{"start":25.86,"end":29.36,"text":"She's arriving in about, I don't know when, at the airport here."},{"start":30.07,"end":40.06,"text":"And it raises the issue of the other potentials, Shirley and a couple of others that may be... One thing is to request, whether you want to add Shirley..."},{"start":43.38,"end":72.39,"text":"uh on a temporary basis well wait a minute wait a minute charlie children's office call she's asking for protection now i guess let's do the kennedy first let's do kennedy and we can well the question is whether or not we want to do kennedy first or do two of them together or"},{"start":73.1,"end":81.07,"text":"Who else is left out?"},{"start":81.09,"end":85.4,"text":"You've got Mills and then you've got Ashbrook."},{"start":86.22,"end":87.7,"text":"Ashbrook's not an active candidate."},{"start":87.8,"end":89.34,"text":"Mills is not an active candidate."},{"start":89.4,"end":90.14,"text":"But Shirley is."},{"start":90.21,"end":91.39,"text":"Shirley Chisholm is."},{"start":91.75,"end":93.29,"text":"And it would just be Shirley."},{"start":93.31,"end":94.35,"text":"Yorty's out, really."},{"start":94.47,"end":95.19,"text":"Yorty's out."},{"start":96.64,"end":99.9,"text":"And they're talking Chisholm a lot more on the paper."},{"start":100.72,"end":102.59,"text":"All right, run down the list."},{"start":102.63,"end":105.92,"text":"Call the chief and tell him to be prepared on Kennedy and Chisholm both."},{"start":105.94,"end":106.12,"text":"Right."},{"start":106.7,"end":107.28,"text":"Fine, Mr. Secretary."},{"start":107.66,"end":109.2,"text":"Okay, I may call you back."},{"start":109.39,"end":110.75,"text":"Any more recent information?"},{"start":110.83,"end":111.67,"text":"No, no more recent."},{"start":111.69,"end":115.38,"text":"We're setting it up so we get the report in a few minutes."},{"start":115.4,"end":117.36,"text":"All right, get some and call us over here."},{"start":117.39,"end":118.01,"text":"Right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, H.R. Haldeman, John Connally, and Eugene Rossides discussed the immediate expansion of Secret Service protection for presidential candidates following the assassination attempt on George Wallace. The group specifically evaluated the security needs of Edward M. Kennedy and Shirley Chisholm, while dismissing candidates deemed inactive. Nixon ordered that protection details be prepared for both Kennedy and Chisholm, pending further investigation into the status of other potential candidates.","topics":["Secret Service","Candidate protection","George Wallace","Edward M. 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