Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 24 › Conversation 024-146

Nixon phone call with Tkach on George Wallace and Medical prognosis

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 10:00 AM–10:05 AM ET · White House Telephone

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Tkach, Walter R.Conversation024-146 on Tape 24 (tape position 03:30:51–03:35:29)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:00 AMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:05 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 024-146 ↗

President Nixon consulted with his physician, Dr. Walter R. Tkach, to discuss the medical condition, prognosis, and potential relocation of George Wallace following the assassination attempt against him. Simultaneously, the President spoke with First Lady Pat Nixon regarding her reactions to the recent redecoration of the Blue Room and press coverage in the Washington Post. The call also touched upon administrative scheduling matters involving John Cardinal Krol.

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On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone from 10:00 am to 10:05 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-146 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 24-146

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: 10:00 am - 10:05 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See also Conversation No. 725-19]

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The President talked with Dr. Walter R. Tkach at an unknown time.

     George C. Wallace

          -Possible location
               -Walter Reed Hospital
               -Alabama
               -Publicity
          -Condition
               -Dr. William M. Lukash's report
               -Prognosis
          -Possible location
               -Alabama
               -Walter Reed Hospital
               -Publicity
                      -President’s announcement

The President talked with Mrs. Nixon between an unknown time after 10:00 and 10:05 am.

     Blue Room reception
          -Opinions of redecoration
               -Washington Post

     The President's schedule
          -John Cardinal Krol
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  • 024-143 9:56 AM · 25 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 9:56 am to 9:57 am.
  • 024-144 9:57 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo talked on the telephone from 9:57 am to 9:59 am.
  • 725-017 9:57 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:57 am and 9:59 am.
  • 024-145 9:59 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 725-018 9:59 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 725-019 10:00 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:00 am and 10:05 am.
  • 725-020 10:05 AM · 49 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:11 am.

Conversation 024-146, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-146 (accessed October 9, 2026).