{"conversationCode":"024-148","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":148,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-148","startDateTime":"1972-05-16T14:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-16T14:12:00.000Z","startDate":"16-May-1972","startTime":"10:11 AM","endDate":"16-May-1972","endTime":"10:12 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 10:11 am to 10:12 am. 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He planned to watch a half-hour segment at 4:00 pm in the movie theater and invited her to join him, along with some staff members and Walter Cronkite, to make the viewing less solitary and to build support for the project.","topics":["Pierre Salinger","Motion pictures","Viewing plans","Pat Nixon","Walter Cronkite","White House staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-28T16:58:51.613Z"},"topicSlugs":["pierre-salinger","motion-pictures","viewing-plans","pat-nixon","walter-cronkite","white-house-staff"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-148.mp3","bytes":2156456,"durationSec":53.81,"bitrate":320589,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-28T16:45:50.802Z","audioSource":"National Archives Catalog (open data, RN-WHT)","audioSourceUrls":["https://catalog.archives.gov/medialz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-wht/17412458/6852475/37-wht-conversation-024-148-pa.mp3"],"catalogNaId":646314612,"originalFilename":["024a.mp3","024c.mp3"],"transcript":[{"start":4,"end":8,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Have you seen Salinger's motion pictures?"},{"start":9,"end":10,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Hello?"},{"start":10,"end":11,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah. Uh-uh."},{"start":11,"end":14,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Have you seen his motion pictures, Salinger's?"},{"start":14,"end":18,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"No. Oh, no. He's always talking to me about them."},{"start":18,"end":30,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, yeah, I've got to see them. I got to see a half hour of them today because we've got to build on them there. We've got to get through. At 4:00 I'm going to look- see it in the movie theater. Could you be free, you might want to come. I've got two or three staff members coming, I just don't want it to be by myself."},{"start":30,"end":34,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, I have to shake hands with those people afterwards."},{"start":34,"end":41,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"No, no, I'm going to do the same thing. I'm not going to just, I'm not going to leave them and let you shake hands. I'll stay and shake hands with them, too."},{"start":41,"end":43,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah, and then I could go down."},{"start":43,"end":47,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah, then we could go down, fine. And invite Walter to go too, let's just build up a little crowd, okay?"},{"start":47,"end":47,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Okay."},{"start":47,"end":49,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Is he there? Is Salinger going to show them himself?"},{"start":49,"end":51,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, yes. We got to listen to 30"},{"start":51,"end":52,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh yeah, he's been talking to me about them."},{"start":52,"end":53.8,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yes, but it's worth doing. Yeah, okay. 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