{"conversationCode":"024-161","tapeNumber":24,"conversationNumber":161,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-024-161","startDateTime":"1972-05-19T19:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-19T19:49:00.000Z","startDate":"19-May-1972","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"19-May-1972","endTime":"3:49 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:25 pm and 3:49 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-161 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 24-161\n\nDate: May 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:25 pm and 3:49 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 339-30A]\n\n     Request for a call to John B. Connally","filename":["024-161.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:03:52","tapeEnd":"04:03:59","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"024-160","nextCode":"024-162","transcript":[{"start":3.04,"end":3.93,"text":"Secretary Connolly."},{"start":4.21,"end":4.96,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs the White House operator to place a telephone call to former Secretary of the Treasury John B. Connally. The interaction serves as a brief logistical request to initiate a direct line of communication between the President and Connally. No further substantive discussion occurs during this short administrative exchange.","topics":["John B. Connally","White House operations","Presidential communications","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:01:45.851Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-b-connally","white-house-operations","presidential-communications","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":6,"audioFiles":[{"file":"024-161.mp3","bytes":151091,"durationSec":6.23,"bitrate":193944,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/024-161.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-161","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/24/conversation-024-161","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}