{"conversationCode":"025-036","tapeNumber":25,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-025-036","startDateTime":"1972-06-11T13:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-11T14:20:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jun-1972","startTime":"9:51 AM","endDate":"11-Jun-1972","endTime":"10:20 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On June 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 9:51 am to 10:20 am. 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Mitchell's schedule\n          -Forthcoming television interview, June 11, 1972\n          -Ability as a lawyer\n\fWashington Star story\n\n1972 campaign\n     -George S. McGovern\n           -Press coverage\n                 -Patrick J. Buchanan\n                       -Memorandum\n           -Organization\n                 -Oregon\n           -Front runner\n     -Polls\n           -California primary\n                 -George S. McGovern’s showing\n                 -Media coverage\n     -George C. Wallace\n           -Supporters\n                 -Reaction to George S. McGovern\n     -George S. McGovern\n           -Effectiveness on television\n           -Intellectuals\n                 -Perception of electorate\n           -Coolness\n           -Ego\n           -Weak points\n                 -Media coverage\n           -Radicalism\n           -Voting record\n     -Extremism on left and right\n           -Leftists\n                 -Comparison with rightists\n                 -Will do anything to get power\n           -Rightists\n                 -Recognize principles\n           -Comedians\n                 -Edward O. Sullivan, III\n           -Leftists forgiveness of sins\n           -Republicans\n                 -More comfortable in opposition\n           -Democrats\n                 -Only enjoy in power\n                 -Want government to do something for them\n     -George S. McGovern\n           -Press coverage\n           -Edmund S. Muskie\n     -Income taxes\n     -Patrick J. Buchanan\n           -Stewart R. Mott\n           -George S. McGovern’s welfare proposal\n                 -Analysis\n     -George S. McGovern\n           -White House strategy\n\f           -Gallup poll\n                 -Richard M. Scammon\n                 -Voter attitudes\n                 -California primary\n                 -Percentages of votes needed\n                       -Democratic vote\n                       -Republican vote\n           -1968 election organization\n                 -The President’s opinion\n           -New York vote\n           -Activists\n                 -Volunteers for campaigns\n                       -Importance\n           -Black vote\n                 -Percentages\n           -Status of the Republican Party\n           -George S. McGovern campaign\n                 -Organization\n                       -Effectiveness\n                       -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson\n                 -Progress of campaign\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["025a.mp3","025b.mp3","025c.mp3","025d.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:22:56","tapeEnd":"01:54:02","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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