{"conversationCode":"025-046","tapeNumber":25,"conversationNumber":46,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-025-046","startDateTime":"1972-06-12T13:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-12T13:58:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Jun-1972","startTime":"9:56 AM","endDate":"12-Jun-1972","endTime":"9:58 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Lukash, William M.;","description":"On June 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and William M. Lukash talked on the telephone from 9:56 am to 9:58 am. 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(President)","Lukash, William M."],"prevCode":"025-045","nextCode":"025-047","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":1.91,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.29,"end":7.06,"text":"What is the latest on Wallace at this time?"},{"start":7.12,"end":11.68,"text":"The doctor called me yesterday morning and he's been coming along."},{"start":11.72,"end":13.42,"text":"The big problem has been nutrition."},{"start":14.29,"end":15.49,"text":"He's starting to gain weight."},{"start":16.79,"end":18.97,"text":"He's had several visitors."},{"start":19.41,"end":20.53,"text":"Yeah, I've seen that in the papers."},{"start":20.55,"end":24.26,"text":"His feeling is, in fact, the doctor would like to get him back to Alabama."},{"start":24.96,"end":27.54,"text":"But he now feels so secure with his doctor and"},{"start":27.88,"end":33.91,"text":"whether it's politically expeditious for him to stay here, but he wants to stay here at Holy Cross."},{"start":33.92,"end":37.03,"text":"And he's been taking visitors quite well."},{"start":37.05,"end":44.1,"text":"There's one infection where he had one of the stomach drains that's still been a little bit of a problem."},{"start":44.12,"end":50.15,"text":"But as far as that, it's a good chance that he could make"},{"start":50.79,"end":76.29,"text":"the convention in some weather you know probably in a wheelchair situation and with this infection they're a little hesitant to operate on that bullet and that'll be if they were to clear this little infection the bullet operation they feel would not be too much of a problem but as it stands now his morale is good and he's taking visitors and he's kind of locked in the"},{"start":76.73,"end":78.55,"text":"staying here in the area, rather."},{"start":78.91,"end":86.04,"text":"Some of his political cronies, of course, in Alabama feel he should be coming back to Alabama, but he's become very dependent on the state."},{"start":86.06,"end":88.76,"text":"What is the situation with regard to paralysis?"},{"start":88.9,"end":94.61,"text":"That looks like it's going to be pretty final at this stage."},{"start":94.63,"end":100.47,"text":"He's got a little bit of muscle strength in the left hip."},{"start":100.93,"end":105.03,"text":"The remainder of that leg and then the whole right hip and leg."},{"start":105.05,"end":108.1,"text":"So the paralysis is just a fact."},{"start":108.12,"end":108.54,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":108.9,"end":120.54,"text":"And the question is, with the left upper hip and both hips handling braces, any little that he is retaining will help when it comes to the brace situation."},{"start":121.48,"end":122.06,"text":"Any what?"},{"start":122.5,"end":123.26,"text":"Any little?"},{"start":123.56,"end":128.55,"text":"Any proximal, any upper muscle mantle help places on the paralyzed part."},{"start":128.79,"end":129.57,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":130.18,"end":130.72,"text":"Fine."},{"start":130.74,"end":137.23,"text":"Let them know that I called with regard to his condition, you know?"},{"start":137.29,"end":137.95,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":137.99,"end":139.99,"text":"I called Mrs. Wallace from time to time."},{"start":140.01,"end":140.11,"text":"Fine."},{"start":140.13,"end":141.01,"text":"You might give her a call."},{"start":141.09,"end":144.54,"text":"Just say that I called today and was delighted to hear that he was making good progress."},{"start":144.76,"end":145.68,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted his physician, William M. Lukash, to receive a medical update on George C. Wallace following his recent assassination attempt. Lukash reported that while Wallace’s morale was improving and he was gaining weight, his paralysis appeared to be permanent and he continued to struggle with a localized infection. The President concluded the call by instructing Lukash to inform the Wallace family that he had inquired about the governor’s condition and expressed his support.","topics":["George C. 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