{"conversationCode":"025-061","tapeNumber":25,"conversationNumber":61,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-025-061","startDateTime":"1972-06-13T21:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-13T21:30:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1972","startTime":"5:29 PM","endDate":"13-Jun-1972","endTime":"5:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On June 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 5:29 pm to 5:30 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-061 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 25-61\n\nDate: June 13, 1972\nTime: 5:29-5:30 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 342-9A]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous archivists categorized this section as unintelligible. It has been rereviewed and\nreleased 10/30/2017.]\n[Unintelligible]\n[025-061-w001]\n\f[Duration: 1m 49s]\n\n     Discussions between Congress and White House\n          -Senators’s and Congressmen’s reaction\n          -Two possibilities\n                -Cameras\n                -The President’s remarks\n          -Presidential statement\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["025-061.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:32:20","tapeEnd":"02:34:09","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"025-060","nextCode":"025-062","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.36,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":142.86,"end":143.09,"text":"Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discussed strategies for managing congressional reactions to White House initiatives. The conversation centered on the potential use of cameras and the drafting of a formal presidential statement to influence legislative perception. This deliberation served to coordinate the administration’s public communication strategy regarding specific congressional relations.","topics":["Congressional relations","Public relations strategy","Presidential statements","Media management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:08:01.087Z"},"topicSlugs":["congressional-relations","public-relations-strategy","presidential-statements","media-management"],"audioDurationSec":143,"audioFiles":[{"file":"025-061.mp3","bytes":3434369,"durationSec":143.03,"bitrate":192085,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.840Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/025-061.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-061","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/25/conversation-025-061","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}