Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 25 › Conversation 025-073

Nixon phone call with Morgan on Richard Helms and Luis Echeverría

Tuesday, June 20, 1972 · 10:51 AM–10:54 AM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Morgan, Edward L.Conversation025-073 on Tape 25 (tape position 03:10:26–03:12:24)StartTuesday, June 20, 1972 at 10:51 AMEndTuesday, June 20, 1972 at 10:54 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 025-073 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417193769 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon updates CIA Director Richard Helms regarding a recent meeting with Mexican President Luis Echeverría. Nixon confirms that he has authorized a private discussion between Echeverría and Helms, intending to facilitate a high-level intelligence channel. The President also instructs Helms to brief the Mexican leader on U.S. foreign policy perspectives concerning the Soviet Union and China.

Richard Helms
Luis Echeverría
International relations
CIA
Foreign policy
Intelligence channels

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NARA Description

On June 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Edward L. Morgan talked on the telephone from 10:51 am to 10:54 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-073 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 25-73

Date: June 20, 1972
Time: 10:51-10:54 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Edward L. Morgan.

[See Conversation No. 342-12B]

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[Previous archivists categorized this section as unintelligible. It has been rereviewed and
released 10/30/2017.]
[Unintelligible]
[025-073-w001]
[Duration: 1m 57s]
     Edward L. Morgan memorandum
         -Questions raised

     Civil rights division
           -Lawyers
                 -Presidential appointees
                 -Potential transfers
           -Delay
           -Reason why

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I didn't call you while you were talking because my car is coming to this one and it's like it's going to be very rare.

And it was just getting stuck.

But I was delighted to hear that it was getting out of hand.

You know, it was just getting out of hand.

Well, I just hope it doesn't stand.

As long as you're right here, it's not.

Wow, I hope I'm right.

Oh!

Yeah, that's the case.

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Also recorded on June 20, 1972

342-011 10:20 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:20 am and 10:25 am.
025-072 10:25 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:25 am and 10:51 am.
342-012 10:25 AM · 55 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, and Edward L. Morgan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:25 am to 11:20 am.
342-013 11:20 AM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 11:26 am.
342-014 11:20 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 11:26 am.
342-015 11:20 AM · 58 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 11:26 am.
342-016 11:26 AM · 59 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:26 am to 12:45 pm.
025-074 12:32 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone from 12:32 pm to 12:33 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 025-073, June 20, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417193769). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-073 (accessed November 14, 2026).